From owner-freebsd-arch Tue Jul 23 6:15:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1816F37B400 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 06:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thuvia.demon.co.uk (thuvia.demon.co.uk [193.237.34.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6205D43E42 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 06:15:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@thuvia.demon.co.uk) Received: from dotar.thuvia.org (dotar.thuvia.org [10.0.0.4]) by phaidor.thuvia.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6NDFEb89800; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:15:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark@thuvia.demon.co.uk) Received: from dotar.thuvia.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by dotar.thuvia.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6NDFDKC059248; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:15:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark@dotar.thuvia.org) Received: (from mark@localhost) by dotar.thuvia.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g6NDFCKB059227; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:15:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:15:12 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Valentine Message-Id: <200207231315.g6NDFCKB059227@dotar.thuvia.org> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(5) 10/07/98) To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: Package system flaws? Cc: Andrew Reilly , jos@catnook.com, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav > Date: Tue 23 Jul, 2002 > Subject: Re: Package system flaws? > "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > > In the world of packaging, all of the post-configuration and custom > > installation stuff is essentially controlled by scripts already, > > they're just shell scripts and sh(1) is already notorious for its weak > > variable handling (no associative arrays), cumbersome conditional > > statements, rudimentary string handling primitives, and so on. > > So let's import a ksh. ksh93 even has dynamically loadable builtins, which allows the extensibility to arbitrary APIs that phk pointed out was the most important feature of the "real" scripting languages. $ grep "^ksh93" /usr/ports/LEGAL ksh93 ports/shells/ksh93 User must agree to "regularly monitor the Website". How about a cron job to fetch the web page and mail it to root, oh say about twice a year? ;-) ksh93 would also help the standards effort. Cheers, Mark. -- Mark Valentine, Thuvia Labs "Tigers will do ANYTHING for a tuna fish sandwich." Mark Valentine uses "We're kind of stupid that way." *munch* *munch* and endorses FreeBSD -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message