From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Fri Mar 9 11:02:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE39F42E6A; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 11:02:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E17170A5A; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 11:02:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id 439E71B09; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 11:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 11:02:40 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Eitan Adler Cc: John Baldwin , svn-src-stable@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers , svn-src-stable-11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r330451 - in stable/11/sys: dev/iwm dev/otus dev/usb/wlan net80211 Message-ID: <20180309110240.GA77718@FreeBSD.org> References: <201803050754.w257swAE001435@repo.freebsd.org> <6465173.s2nWvWCLOs@ralph.baldwin.cx> <8377086.JrIgVVMXMv@ralph.baldwin.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.2 (2017-12-15) X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 11:02:40 -0000 On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 02:53:49PM -0800, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 7 March 2018 at 09:37, John Baldwin wrote: > > ... > > I suspect many of these changes for iwm, etc. are all intertwined > > so I'm not sure if you can leave out individual ones. > > Possibly. I do have iwm working on my laptop though. I also know of > one open PR assigned to me w.r.t. a model I don't own. I'll be > addressing it some time this week. I often have mixed feelings when I see lots of similar changes (i.e. that make up for better hardware support, esp. on a laptop) MFCed. I'd rather see laptop users run -CURRENT and leave -STABLE branches for very conservative (server?) users who can't/don't want to afford the risks of running -CURRENT or require ABI stability in a really long run, rather than binge-merging things. :-) By default it should be -CURRENT all over; it's a very good thing that we as a Project ourselves are doing this as part of our own dogfood eating strategy. ./danfe