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From: Mikhail Teterin <mi@kot.ne.mediaone.net>
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Subject: Re: btokup().. patch to STYLE(9) (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <97A8CA5BF490D211A94F0000F6C2E55D09752E@s-lmh-wi-900.corpnet.at> from Ladavac Marino at "Feb 2, 1999 10:30:43 am"
To: mladavac@metropolitan.at (Ladavac Marino)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:38:41 -0500 (EST)
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Ladavac Marino once stated:

=> =Whilst the official codebase may be under the control of a select
=> =group of committers, the code should be capable of being understood
=> by
=> =anyone who is reasonably proficient with C.
=> 
=> Depends on your definition of "reasonably", Mr. Special Counselor...
=	[ML]  
=	I see no cause for name calling.

I'm sorry, I did not mean "name calling". I was making a joke
refering to the America's infamous senior public official talking
to a certain Special Counsel (or Independent Counsel).

=	And, guess what, none of these languages have the same
=	operator precedence as C/C++.  But they all have
=	parentheses.  Knowledge of operator precedence as a
=	metric of programming proficience--ludicrous.  My brain
=	would turn to pretzel if I had to know all the precedence
=	rules in all the languages that I daily have to use.

I must admit, that this is the first reasonable argument I observe
in a few days of this Battle of Giants. Mostly it looks like:

	-- I think, the code must be readable, therefore, we must allow
	   for X.

	-- No, I think, the readability is very important, therefore X
	   should be disallowed.

=	/* the reason for branching */
=	if ( (a * b  -  c * d) < (e / f) ) {
=		true_part();
=	}
=	else {
=		false_part();
=		more_false_part();
=	}

=	You will have noticed that I put braces around single
=	statements.  This has no performance penalty--a reasonable
=	compiler will not create a stack frame--and helps in
=	maintenance.

I'd say, I do not like this :) My first move is to remove the un-needed braces
or put `else' onto the same line as the closing brace before it (I program in TCL
a lot). But we all 've read enough of this already.

The discussion is no longer interesting because of its subject, but rather
because of its style. And this is a whole different branch of science...

	-mi

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