From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 10 18:30:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41F976FC for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 18:30:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x231.google.com (mail-ie0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D88D1690 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 18:30:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by iebmu5 with SMTP id mu5so201161559ieb.1 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:30:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=97/SC37yr1J1di1OQ65Ywq5YHxZfTRtZ2ILAv1bSpEw=; b=x7FEmfOL4hp+lFQLVfol4kjWeDyajGtr9Z83Ck8u1QGMJ/zdK2EYh5/+zc7uckIa7f neiIceY4cBytQyjTa2jwx+EMP+GZM2FsqbpK07wqmDZ3rxz1J+WRN7xNkVkH/V3KMMkv u4x8859fVzzip3km9LUuEkdfHVc+7hqmyWjMfx6YWo79WNDbhzc2s/7ImTVjXmWJ2qOf AwtAhWy4rBj2RX66FJiB9TQhfN1ZGOGxkmUhyudFp5AzgS/JFlXlFiqCPE6LZRdIzabO +QBhlL6ooGyAeRd04mDXWPZQZBkNJY42YDTZsEZng5FB4YkdJk9JuAU/ovWVGxsDQu7U sltg== X-Received: by 10.50.64.244 with SMTP id r20mr182199igs.33.1436553028949; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id n30sm6977064ioi.38.2015.07.10.11.30.28 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55A00F43.90908@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 12:30:27 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Microsoft Now OpenBSD Foundation Gold Contributor References: <559FF775.7030204@mgm51.com> <33650.128.135.70.2.1436549147.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <33650.128.135.70.2.1436549147.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 18:30:29 -0000 On 07/10/2015 11:25 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On Fri, July 10, 2015 11:48 am, Mike wrote: >> On 7/10/2015 12:43 PM, Carmel NY wrote: >>> I wonder why they choose OpenBSD over FreeBSD? >>> >>> http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20150708134520&mode=expanded&count=27 >> >> >> Probably is related to: >> >> http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20150603090420 >> > With all my scepticism I would more consider that as an excuse, implying > the reason may be something like this: > > http://slashdot.org/story/10/12/15/004235/FBI-Alleged-To-Have-Backdoored-OpenBSDs-IPSEC-Stack > > (I didn't say exactly this, I said something like this...) So, I'm > actually quite happy they didn't choose FreeBSD ;-) > > Valeri A friend of mine commented about this to me: "They (i.e. the fed, via MS) also bought their way into Cyanogen. Not sure what their plans are here, but BSD or Apache licensed software is a good fit for the classic "embrace, extend, extinguish" strategy /(of MS)//---Italics mine-JD// /// OpenBSD has been hurting for money so it is possible that MS feels that a small strategic cash infusion buys them assets and/or goodwill they can use against their bigger competitors: Linux, Google, etc. $25k-50k is a rounding error for MS (and even for BRCM). I've always wondered whether consumer hardware / embedded devices would start migrating over to BSD, since GPL compliance is such a hassle for many vendors. Obviously Android went this way several years ago."