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Date:      Wed, 23 Sep 2020 23:19:13 +0000
From:      bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org
To:        bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   [Bug 248659] random system freezes
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--- Comment #6 from rkoberman@gmail.com ---
I had an epiphany yesterday and may have figured something that may help tr=
ack
this down. It appears that this is likely tied to the system disk which is =
an
ATAPI (SATA) drive.

I can keep the system from freezing indefinitely by either typing or moving=
 the
cursor. I realized that these two devices (kbd and psm) are , to the best o=
f my
knowledge, the last physical devices still GIANT locked ad the last ISA
devices, as well. It is my suspicion that the GIANT lock happening now and =
then
causes something to clear out that will eventually livelock the system.

I previously noted that the disk transfer rate would deteriorate over time,
leading to a livelock. I can now report that, if I see the transfer rate
declining, I can suspend the job and, after a few seconds, the system retur=
ns
to normal. If I let the problem continue for more than a few seconds, the
keyboard will be locked up and the system will be livelocked and require a
power down.

I am unable to un-tar teh firefox source tarball or any other large tarball.
Even with typing or moving the mouse, the transfer rate will start declinin=
g. I
can suspend tat, but it sems to start declining again very soon whne the ta=
r is
resumed and I was unable to complete the restore. I have seen similar behav=
ior
with other large tarballs. Oddly, when copying from USB disk to system disk=
, I
see similar issues, but a suspend seems to allow then to return to full spe=
ed
for a while upon resume. Copies on the system disk to the system disk seem =
to
be the worst problem.

It also appears that an inactive system usually does not lock up. I can boo=
t to
the single-user or the login prompt and the system will remain usable for a
long time. It does  seem to eventually lock up, but it can take hours. It h=
ad
never locked until I left it at the single-user prompt after it finished
fscking the system. When I get back to the system today, after about 13 hou=
rs,
it was frozen.

Any suggestions on tracking this down would really be appreciated as this
system is replacing an old one which has a failing fan and may become usele=
ss
at any time.

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