From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Aug 12 07:22:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02355 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 07:22:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.tfs.net (as2-p93.tfs.net [139.146.205.93] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02343 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 07:22:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbryant@unix.tfs.net) Received: (from jbryant@localhost) by unix.tfs.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id JAA20058; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:21:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Bryant Message-Id: <199808121421.JAA20058@unix.tfs.net> Subject: Re: solaris is free. In-Reply-To: <19980812022936.A16972@mooseriver.com> from Josef Grosch at "Aug 12, 98 02:29:37 am" To: jgrosch@mooseriver.com Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:21:35 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: jbryant@unix.tfs.net X-Windows: R00LZ!@# MS-Winbl0wz DR00LZ!@# X-files: The truth is that the X-Files is fiction X-Republican: The best kind!!! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Sat Jun 20 11:57:05 CDT 1998 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply: > On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 11:06:25AM +0200, Nick Hibma wrote: > > > My guess is that Sun is beginning to feel the heat from FreeBSD and > > > Linux. Last time I looked very few people we running Solaris on X86. Mayby > > > they are starting to worry about all those older Sparc's running NetBSD. > > > > To be honest, x86 SOlaris has always been a bit a forgotten child in the > > Sun family. > > Given the speed of Solaris on x86 I'm not surprised. When I was contracting > at Sun earlier this year I went around installing FreeBSD on machines that > were running Solaris. Even hard core Sun people were surprised at how much > faster FreeBSD ran. take note that in paragraph 2 of the license, it is stated: ---------- you will not use the Software for these purposes. You may not publish or provide the results of any benchmark or comparison tests run on Software to any third party without the prior written consent of Sun. No right, title or interest in or ---------- maybe this has something to do with what you were saying about the performance... anyhow, i still see this as a promising move by sun. it could really drop the cost of new low-budget development. it could also boost sparc sales. the way i read the license, it doesn't stop wannabe developers from developing new apps. apps that can be migrated to the large scale with merely a recompile. it is also the first serious commercial threat to nt, but judgement on that i will reserve for a future date. jim -- All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Inet: jbryant@tfs.net AX.25: kc5vdj@wv0t.#neks.ks.usa.noam grid: EM28pw voice: KC5VDJ - 6 & 2 Meters AM/FM/SSB, 70cm FM. http://www.tfs.net/~jbryant ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HF/6M/2M: IC-706-MkII, 2M: HTX-212, 2M: HTX-202, 70cm: HTX-404, Packet: KPC-3+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message