From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jul 21 10:51:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from the.oneinsane.net (the.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DEC15515 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:51:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09549 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:51:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from insane@localhost) by lunatic.oneinsane.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05003 for freebsd-chat@freeBSD.org; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:51:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:51:01 -0700 From: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" To: freebsd-chat@freeBSD.org Subject: Re: poor ethernet performance? Message-ID: <19990721105101.A4252@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: Ron Rosson References: <4.2.0.58.19990720144745.0439ef00@localhost> <4.2.0.58.19990720203046.04430910@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990720203046.04430910@localhost>; from Brett Glass on Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 09:06:28PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 3.2-STABLE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 10:49AM up 6 days, 18:27, 3 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.13, 0.11 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What does the below have todo with poor ethernet performance? Hmm.. When a tangeant starts off like this could someone take the initiative to change the topic. TIA On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Brett Glass was heard blurting out: > At 02:30 PM 7/20/99 -0700, Tani Hosokawa wrote: > > >I'm curious -- How long has FreeBSD existed? > > The name "FreeBSD" was coined in 1993, IIRC. But BSD > UNIX has been around for decades, and free versions were > around quite awhile before FreeBSD as a project was started. > 386BSD, Net/2, Net/3, and NetBSD all pre-date FreeBSD, I > believe. FreeBSD is largely based on BSD 4.4-Lite, but has > diverged farther from it than NetBSD or OpenBSD. > > Linux was first released during a period when the legal > status of the BSDs was in doubt. But it was far, far behind > the BSDs at that point, and was still really a "toy" even > by the time the lawsuit was resolved. BSD, by contrast, was > already mature. > > Linux passed the BSDs in installed base, features, and > device support due to evangelism and idealism -- "good > memes," as my friends who are into Memetics say. FreeBSD > is lagging behind because the nominal leaders of the project > have not adopted similar approaches. Even OpenBSD is gaining > on FreeBSD, albeit slowly, due to its reputation as a security- > focused OS at a time when security is becoming a big concern. > This is occurring despite a smaller development group, a > project leader with a reputation for abrasiveness (though I > personally like him), a less user-friendly install, less > optimization for the x86 platform (they need to remain > platform-independent, after all), and less widespread > distribution. > > I'm now working with some investors who seem as if they > might be interested in doing a heavily promoted, marketed, > and supported BSD OS distribution. They don't want to > reimplement the wheel or create a fragmentary effort, > and so want to track an existing code base. They're > currently torn between FreeBSD and OpenBSD as a basis > for that package. OpenBSD is missing a lot of things > FreeBSD has got, but frankly, they're worried about the > FreeBSD development team's antipathy toward evangelism. > > I'm rooting for FreeBSD as the final choice. So, I'm really > hoping that the FreeBSD team will be willing to accept, > if grudgingly, a more evangelistic approach to promoting > the OS by third parties. > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void ------------------------------------------------------------------- Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach him to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message