From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 28 02:07:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A6516A41F for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:07:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190D643D48 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:07:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l8so1650330nzf for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:07:06 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=SpWY9kKx5eOgn399oAZS/DR+mf1IDDHgFhqxxh64OwCDjIFmyM9KDTS4NuMP2eNhgC6GQ5Go9Yz5ODouOc1iFTRsZoNti6euTvVxLknMehhHiiVtoYhlgtRA5uWrGTj28LR9qSbKCA+LFtoy5YHD0sOjPMjlPZREiwl/9Kd8I4g= Received: by 10.36.50.19 with SMTP id x19mr115394nzx; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:07:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr ( [211.53.35.84]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 18sm848665nzo.2006.03.27.18.07.04; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:07:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (localhost.cdnetworks.co.kr [127.0.0.1]) by michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2S28gVU008803 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:08:42 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: (from yongari@localhost) by michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k2S28exG008802; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:08:40 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:08:40 +0900 From: Pyun YongHyeon To: Pieter de Goeje Message-ID: <20060328020840.GA8189@cdnetworks.co.kr> References: <20060324223317.2069564f@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20060327185142.GC24315@soaustin.net> <200603271848.19010.joao@matik.com.br> <200603280221.28996.pieter@degoeje.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200603280221.28996.pieter@degoeje.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new sk driver [was: nve timeout (and down) regression?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pyunyh@gmail.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:07:07 -0000 On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 02:21:28AM +0200, Pieter de Goeje wrote: > On Monday 27 March 2006 23:48, JoaoBR wrote: > > On Monday 27 March 2006 15:51, Mark Linimon wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 12:15:55PM -0300, JoaoBR wrote: > > > > well, the actual driver is trash and unusable and overall crashes SMP > > > > systems ... so more testing to see if it crashes more? ;) > > > > > > As with any other software development project, you have to draw a line > > > somewhere and say "these things will be in the release and these things > > > will not be in the release"; otherwise, you will never have a release at > > > all. > > > > > > I am not familiar with the code in this case but if its inclusion changed > > > enough other things in the system where _everything_ had to be re-tested > > > then it's not worth the regression. > > > > > > These are just the simple facts of (any) software development. > > > > well, ok that is completly understandable basicly > > > > but this driver is unusable since dec/jan for me, for others probably > > longer > > > > IMO it would make sense to be replaced by Pyuns driver because the original > > is not functional > > > > kind of strange getting a new release with a known not functional driver > > > > Jo?o > > This is not quite true; I am running 2 systems with the sk driver. One of them > is a dual core athlon64, and it's network connection is indeed flawed unless > I change debug.mpsafenet to 0. The other machine is a regular athlon64 and > has no problems at all. Both systems are running 6.1-PRERELEASE amd64. > Does it happen on my latest sk(4) driver? I don't have amd64 systems but the driver was tested on i386(SMP) and sparc64(SMP) and I never see above errors. The only issue known to me is occasional watchdog timeout error which I really want to fix. But the watchdog timeout error is hard to reproduce and I couldn't reproduce the error on my system. > With debug.mpsafenet=1, cvsup failes with "protocol error"s on the SMP box. > Also, I run several Half-Life: Counter-Strike servers on it and clients > occasionaly receive corrupted UDP packets which cause them to drop the > connection. However as soon as I changed debug.mpsafenet to 0, all problems > were gone. > How about stock sk(4)? Does it have the same issue too? > So, maybe you should try changing debug.mpsafenet. > FYI: the SMP box has an Asus A8V (agp) mobo, and the other box an Asus K8V SE. > -- Regards, Pyun YongHyeon