From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 21 15:14:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10262 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:03:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10252 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:03:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA01770; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:03:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA17586; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:03:14 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:03:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199901212303.QAA17586@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: brian@worldcontrol.com Cc: Mike Smith , Nick Sayer , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reclaiming irqs for unsupported PCI hardware? In-Reply-To: <19990121020505.A91892@top.worldcontrol.com> References: <19990119202553.A90328@top.worldcontrol.com> <199901202012.MAA00975@dingo.cdrom.com> <19990121020505.A91892@top.worldcontrol.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > My take on the problem has been that Nate Williams and the PAO people > don't get along. For what i's worth, it's not an issue of 'get along' as much as an issue with 'development differencees'. The PAO folks are interested in laptop (and only laptop) support patches that work around bugs in the existin code and/or hardware, and I'm intersted in solutions that are relevant for both desktop *AND* laptop users. The PAO code oftens takes the 'easy' approach to the problem, which is great if the only consumer is a laptop user, but this won't work on a desktop, plus it often penalizes users who don't have problems. Next, I'm not the laptop guy anymore. Mike Smith *was* supposed to take it over, but WC keeps him too busy with other work, so currently there is no one doing the work. Warner Losh has been doing quite a bit of stuff, and Garrett Wollman is also working on some related issues, but for the most part the laptop stuff has been abandoned. (Even in PAO it's been back-burnered for the most part.) Does that mean that any/all patches are welcome? As long as I've got a say in the matter I'll speak my opinion on patches, but as far as getting my hands too dirty you can look elsewhere, as I simply don't have the time/desire to get involved anymore than I already am. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message