From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 4 00:52:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CEFF16A41C; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 00:52:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91FA43D1F; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 00:52:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from p54A3CE46.dip.t-dialin.net [84.163.206.70] (helo=donor.laier.local) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML21M-1DeMtY48fO-0001td; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 02:52:12 +0200 From: Max Laier To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 02:52:02 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050603020140.GA22870@heff.fud.org.nz> <20050603211400.GA26676@heff.fud.org.nz> <42A0CE82.5040306@elischer.org> In-Reply-To: <42A0CE82.5040306@elischer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart25406294.dXI2uzbUU8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506040252.09866.max@love2party.net> X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:61c499deaeeba3ba5be80f48ecc83056 Cc: Julian Elischer , Andrew Thompson Subject: Re: xxconfig for if_bridge X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 00:52:16 -0000 --nextPart25406294.dXI2uzbUU8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 03 June 2005 23:41, Julian Elischer wrote: > Andrew Thompson wrote: > >On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 02:00:36PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > >>what does if_bridge give you that cannot be achieved with > >>ng_bridge+ng_eiface? > >>Well, I guess it has some spanning tree algorythm in it, but it might be > >>as easy to put > >>that in ng_bridge and a lot more flexible, > > > >We had this same discussion a year ago. > > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-April/thread.htm= l# > >25886 > > and I still don't see why it is better to import Yet another bridge > module rather > than adding it to the 2 we already have. In the long run (by 7.0 if things go as planed) the current bridge will be= =20 removed. The current bridge.c implementation has some issues and isn't=20 really actively maintained, while if_bridge is in Net- and OpenBSD and henc= e=20 we get more from it. You are welcome, of course, to teach ng_bridge about STP and whatnot. I ju= st=20 wonder why that hasn't happened by now? > You can do things with ng_bridge that you can't do with if_bridge.. And vice versa ... your point being? > for example bridge together 3 remote sites connected by ipsec tunnels. for example do proper firewalling on the bridge (without having to push the= =20 traffic through a gazillion netgraph nodes, which isn't all that great for= =20 performace). =2D-=20 /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News --nextPart25406294.dXI2uzbUU8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCoPs5XyyEoT62BG0RAqPRAJ9BEn4FasdYkzZTmxulf7a7+TfsvACfWkPp jsBGfjS49qjUoa1zXx7HTdk= =eApE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart25406294.dXI2uzbUU8--