From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 30 14:03:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561591065679 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r00t@ellicit.org) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CC28FC0A for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi15 with SMTP id 15so8077443pwi.3 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:03:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.118.4 with SMTP id q4mr12258660wfc.337.1262181809961; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from abs.local (cpe-66-91-76-160.hawaii.res.rr.com [66.91.76.160]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm13549889pzk.5.2009.12.30.06.03.26 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:03:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B3B5DAC.20102@ellicit.org> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 04:03:24 -1000 From: r00t User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <4B344459.4020202@ellicit.org> <4B35FC4C.7050100@unsane.co.uk> <20091226123953.GA8864@icarus.home.lan> <4B3611EB.3060306@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B3611EB.3060306@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: php5-5.2.11_1 Vulnerabilities X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:03:37 -0000 On 12/26/09 3:38 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> I say this as both someone who does web hosting and codes in PHP. I >> often wonder what the point of PHP is given Markup::Perl[3]'s existence. > > Ooooh... another way of embedding perl into HTML. That makes <... counts > on fingers ...> loads. > > Not to mention all those solutions employing Ruby or Java/jsp or > Python. And > the Google web tools stuff, where you write pure Java and it compiles > into the > appropriate mix of server side Java objects and Ajax enabled web pages. > > Or the distressingly under-appreciated WebObjects stuff from Apple, > which may > have been around a few years but is still pretty revolutionary (although > not > free). > > No -- there are many, many alternatives to PHP. Trouble is, there are > many, > many web-monkeys out there that cannot conceive of using anything else. > And > if you propose to a client writing a web app in any other language they > get all > bothered because it's "non standard" and because "we can find PHP coders > easily". That's a self fulfilling prophecy if ever I saw one. A lot > like proposing any > other OS than Windows... Now who would do a thing like that? > > Cheers, > > Matthew (who thinks HTML::Mason is where it's at...) > suhosin-patch-5.2.11-0.9.7.patch.gz is now in ports so this issue is closed.