From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 25 11:02:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA25725 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from persprog.com (persprog.com [204.215.255.203]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25720 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by persprog.com (8.7.5/4.10) id MAA12425; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 12:57:50 -0500 Received: from novell(192.2.2.201) by cerberus.ppi.com via smap (V1.3) id sma012423; Thu Apr 25 13:57:48 1996 Received: from NOVELL/SpoolDir by novell.persprog.com (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 25 Apr 96 13:56:01 +0500 Received: from SpoolDir by NOVELL (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 25 Apr 96 13:55:34 +0500 From: "David Alderman" Organization: Personalized Programming, Inc. To: Narvi Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 13:55:34 EST Subject: Re: Boot floppy problem with Intel Atlantis motherboard (Ma CC: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.31) Message-ID: Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Narvi wrote: > > > > On Thu, 25 Apr 1996, Michael Smith wrote: > > > Brett Glass stands accused of saying: > > > > > > > Use -c and turn off all the sio ports (especially sio3). > > > > > > Is this the S3 video chip vs. COM4: conflict? > > > > Actually, S3 parts are very tolerant of activity on that port. > > Sadly, the ATI Mach64 chips _aren't_, and these are the ones that cause > > problems. > > Some do have the conflict - you can't use some older (and I don't know > about newer) serial cards/modems with Trio64V+ - The system still works > (at least with DOS + Windows) but you can't access the serial. > > > > > It all started with IBM and the 8514... I believe the problem in both cases derives from the fact that most serial ports do not use 16 bit I/O addresses - they usually ignore the most significant 4 bits. Therfore a serial port at x3E8H will confilct with a video device at (let's say) 33E8H. I believe some of the S3 chips fall into this category. I can't remember if the original IBM serial ports had 12 or 16 bit addresses (I have the old schematics around here somewhere) so the 8514 might have been OK with IBM serial hardware. I believe I bought a 4 port serial board once that was 16-bit addressable specifically to get around this problem with an S3 board. I'll bet the company's out of business for spending the extra four cents required to put a 16 bit PAL on the board instead of just a 12 bit one. ====================================== When philosophy conflicts with reality, choose reality. Dave Alderman -- dave@persprog.com ======================================