Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 10:43:42 -0700 From: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> To: Per olof Ljungmark <peo@intersonic.se> Cc: FreeBSD Ports <freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: The future of portmaster [and of ports-mgmt/synth] Message-ID: <20170531174342.GA48852@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <d8ba380d-50e7-c110-d3e4-d12c718c7144@intersonic.se> References: <589B133C-0175-4DD2-8847-5A3E0E697B36@dsl-only.net> <20170530200629.GA10517@lonesome.com> <b0af0ae5-74fc-b932-5d4a-3697c5d3e666@intersonic.se> <20170530215306.GB11098@lonesome.com> <CAN6yY1stP9iFs5in-J4VGqLP88p_CEcykerDNePxm9490GiG4w@mail.gmail.com> <d8ba380d-50e7-c110-d3e4-d12c718c7144@intersonic.se>
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On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 07:28:38PM +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > > On 2017-05-31 02:10, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com > > <mailto:linimon@lonesome.com>> wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 11:46:46PM +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > > > Hello, I have not followed this thread before but just wanted to say > > > that I use portmaster extensively, it works for us and I would miss > > > it if it went. Are there actually plans to retire it? > > > > To reiterate the status: > > > > * some extensive changes to the ports framework are coming; > > * these will require large changes to all the port upgrade tools; > > * no one has stepped forwards to offer to do the work for anything > > other than poudriere AFAIK. > > > > If no one does the work, at the time the large changes come, the > > other tools will break. > > > > People have been wanting subpackages (aka flavors) for many years; > > IIUC these are parts of the changes that are coming. > > > > Someone needs to step forwards and say "yes, I will do the work." > > > > mcl > > > > Since portmaster is still popult and since the only solutions that looks > > to be available in the near term are pouderiere or raw make, neither > > terribly viable for many, I will look into updating portmaster to deal > > with 'flavors'. This looks fairly straight forward and I my have the sh > > capability to manage it. (And then again, I am far from a great shell > > person, so I may well be wrong.) I have looked at Doug's script and it > > is pretty readable, but writing may require help. > > > > Can someone point me where to look for documentation on flavors? I have > > poked around the wiki, but to no avail. Unless there is documentation on > > what needs to be done, doing it will be hopeless and waiting for the > > packaging system to updated means portmaster WILL be broken for some > > period of time. > > Let me just say that I would really, really appriciate if we could keep > such a simple tool. Why does it suit us? Because we have a limited > number of systems, and they are all different meaning that we custom > build for almost every task. Portmaster makes very easy to build what we > need on each host. Yes, it brakes sometimes but it is not that hard to > figure out how to get around. +1 I have one i386 system (a laptop) with 1.5 GB of memory, at any given time between 3-8 GB free diskspace, and a slow USB2 port. Poudriere and synth are simply overkill for maintaining ports for that laptop. -- Steve 20170425 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWUpyCsUKR4 20161221 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbCHE-hONow
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