From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Fri Nov 6 12:40:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B55A26107 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2015 12:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from smtp.digiware.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:4cb8:90:ffff::3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA11F14A7; Fri, 6 Nov 2015 12:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wjw@digiware.nl) Received: from rack1.digiware.nl (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF5E153401; Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:40:38 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at digiware.nl Received: from smtp.digiware.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by rack1.digiware.nl (rack1.digiware.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UMZcc2Ik5kGS; Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:40:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.101.176] (vpn.ecoracks.nl [31.223.170.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.digiware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 26F24153413; Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:40:07 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: tap(4) and host-only networking between host and guest To: Eugene Grosbein , Craig Rodrigues , Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> References: <20151104075454.GA99850@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <5639FF12.1020109@freebsd.org> <20151104131230.GA1117@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20151104184503.GC1117@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <563B8C9A.7070104@grosbein.net> <563BF60B.5090201@quip.cz> <563C6029.5010109@grosbein.net> Cc: FreeBSD Net , Victor Sudakov From: Willem Jan Withagen Message-ID: <563C9FA6.9040909@digiware.nl> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:40:06 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <563C6029.5010109@grosbein.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 12:40:53 -0000 On 6-11-2015 09:09, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > On 06.11.2015 07:59, Craig Rodrigues wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrote: >> >>> Eugene Grosbein wrote on 11/05/2015 18:06: >>> >>>> Yes, it is. And there is a solution: >>>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=165174 >>>> >>> >>> I don't understand why such useful patches are left uncommited and without >>> any comments in PR for years. >>> >>> >> This is not official project policy, but in future, I recommend that for >> submitting patches to the >> project, people try to use the steps at: https://wiki.freebsd.org/CodeReview >> to submit the patch to Phabricator. >> >> As a FreeBSD developer, I personally find that Phabricator is easier to >> work with patches thatn Bugzilla. >> >> Other FreeBSD developers may disagree with me, but more FreeBSD developers >> are starting to use Phabricator. > > I've just read https://wiki.freebsd.org/CodeReview and registered at Phabricator. > It seems more developer-centric (it needs commit-messages etc.) > and over-complicated for non-developer reporting small bug and supplying small fix. I will register there, but I have the same feeling as Eugene. It feels like quite more hassle for committing a bugreports, and or a small 2 line fixer. On the other hand, if that is where a lot of the discussion on fixes and patches is moving to..... It needs to be advertised as such. --WjW