From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 16 17:12:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6484016A4CE for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:12:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64E5443D46 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:12:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 5819 invoked by uid 65534); 16 Oct 2004 17:12:28 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) (62.245.232.135) by mail.gmx.net (mp002) with SMTP; 16 Oct 2004 19:12:28 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 19:12:25 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041013214911.GD986@green.homeunix.org> <20041015220203.GT83620@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> <4171059C.9070908@withagen.nl> In-Reply-To: <4171059C.9070908@withagen.nl> X-OS: FreeBSD X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Country: Germany MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart6421401.QHoA1VPTny"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200410161912.26923.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> cc: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: 5.3-BETA7 install cd: kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:12:30 -0000 --nextPart6421401.QHoA1VPTny Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Samstag, 16. Oktober 2004 13:27 schrieb Willem Jan Withagen: > Peter Jeremy wrote: > >On Fri, 2004-Oct-15 14:35:47 +0200, Guido van Rooij wrote: > >>A make buildworld cannot be used in sich a scenario. A nice memtester > >>that could be called from the bootloader would have been handy. > > > >http://www.memtest86.com/memtest86-3.1a.iso.gz > > > >I'm not sure how much effort would be involved in making memtest[86] > >in a form that could be loaded by the bootloader. > > I'd be willing to do the work, but somebody needs to hold my hand in > finding a place and way to get it early enough in the kernel. The > memtest algorithms in themselves are not all that complex to program. [...] > Another valid remark was made about the environment. temperature and > power are also very influential factors for holding electrons in memory > cells. And these are hard/impossible to influence whilest running the > tests. Guys, I'd really love to see this great feature!!! I'm no hacker but due to my past I know something of memory and I always li= ked=20 the ASUS jumper which sets memory voltage between 3v3 and 3v6, with 3v4 as= =20 default. Perhaps you could add a comment that reducing the voltage to 3v3 o= n=20 ASUS boards will expose failures more likely. Thanks, =2DHarry > An also important item for memory failure is refresh timing. It could be > that the memory as such is correct, but that too much leakage causes > bits to fall too fast. To detect this it requires that whole rows of the > memory are not touched by either read or write for the duration of the > refresh period. All in all again not very simple without knowing the > memory architecture. > > These arguments have for me always been the reason, not to try implement > a memory tester. Especially since most people using this will not be > aware of limitted relevance of the tests they are running. > > But like I said, give me some pointers on how to plug it into the > kernel, and I'll get going on this. > > --WjW > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart6421401.QHoA1VPTny Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBcVZ6Bylq0S4AzzwRAhfyAJwMAgwUzPngYRH3Nsl200V7uNNtOwCfdd0T ON5dTLD5JS61eyTZBg8LrD4= =do8r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart6421401.QHoA1VPTny--