From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sat Mar 30 19:51:03 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944151560493 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 19:51:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3F373381 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 19:51:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A5381156048D; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 19:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91243156048C; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 19:51:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Received: from sdaoden.eu (sdaoden.eu [217.144.132.164]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A80F7337D; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 19:51:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Received: by sdaoden.eu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DEF6F16054; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 20:50:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 20:51:41 +0100 From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: Rebecca Cran via freebsd-hackers Cc: Warner Losh , Konstantin Belousov , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Adding a new efi-update-loader script: need help understanding Makefile.inc1 for "make installworld" Message-ID: <20190330195141.2HVp7%steffen@sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: References: <642fed43-0535-9ae3-6f01-a943650cd511@bluestop.org> <20190324090103.GO1923@kib.kiev.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Rebecca Cran via freebsd-hackers , Warner Losh , Konstantin Belousov , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.13-32-g7e84ad8b OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc; preference=signencrypt BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 2A80F7337D X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.91 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.907,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 19:51:03 -0000 Rebecca Cran via freebsd-hackers wrote in : |On 3/24/19 5:57 PM, Warner Losh wrote: ... |boot entry had disappeared! Fortunately I have rEFInd installed so I |could select the "UEFI OS" entry and get back into FreeBSD, but that's |another reason we need to be really careful about relying too heavily on |the boot manager variables. Thanks for bringing this name up. Maybe FreeBSD should pass some donations through to this rEFIt successor and start execution where that one ends. I have always been living in fear of using those badly documented Free(and other)BSD boot things, for true multiboot etc. i always had to end up with lilo or (horrors!) grub2. I can tell stories of systems where the Debian grub messed up freebsd booting, and the FreeBSD grub port only found freebsd. This is only fun for i-do-not-know-who, but anyway these have a vivid internet connection and multiple boxes available. I finally have found a home with syslinux and refit/refind. (Which is still very picky when you mess up configuration entries. For example it will find anything and include a manually entered configuration, but if you mess up the latter it will just break.) --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)