From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 25 18:20:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E6116A47E for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tmclaugh@FreeBSD.org) Received: from straycat.dhs.org (c-24-63-86-11.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.63.86.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E29A43D88 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:20:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tmclaugh@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.2.68] (bofh.straycat.dhs.org [192.168.2.68]) by straycat.dhs.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9PIJqDh011030; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:19:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom McLaughlin To: ports@FreeBSD.org, bsd-sharp-list@forge.novell.com Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-qyWHTO1gSV+gAj/Phho5" Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:19:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1161800392.1443.7.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: Subject: Mono and it's future on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:20:19 -0000 --=-qyWHTO1gSV+gAj/Phho5 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [cross-posted to ports@FreeBSD.org and bsd-sharp-list@forge.novell.com] Hi all, For the last 2 years I've been maintaining Mono and it's consumers on FreeBSD and running the BSD# project . Mono has come a long way in the past two years with the help of a few people but it still has further to go to work as well as it does on Novell's targeted platforms. With that said, I've realized that it is time for me to step aside from maintaining Mono and running BSD#. A few months ago I realized I was not enjoying my FreeBSD work at all. That made me come to the conclusion that it's time for me to pursue other FreeBSD work. My life has changed in the past two years. The biggest change is a new job. I have less free time and I like spending the free time I have working on projects related to what I find interesting at work. I've also accumulated a number of ideas over the past few years for FreeBSD which I want to pursue. Maintaining Mono and trying to run BSD# just doesn't fit into my life very well anymore. Many people familiar with Mono know how I got this job. As a completely novice programmer I just wanted to learn C#. Soon after I did a port or two the last Mono maintainer left. At that point I decided to keep Mono up to date in the interim until someone else wanted the job. (Can 2 years be called interim?) This is why I started BSD# instead of maintaining the ports on my own. Mono's issues on FreeBSD have long been over my head. It needs someone who will actually port it not just keep it up to date. I used to keep a list of known issues that could be easily reproduced with certain applications. Not having someone to look at the cause of and fix these issues I eventually gave up. This has stalled a few applications from making their way into the FreeBSD tree. I'm not dropping Mono, all the C# ports, and BSD# right now. In fact, I was at Novell's Mono conference the past two days. I want to ensure a smooth transition and avoid dropping all the ports maintained by bsd-sharp-list@forge.novell.com to ports@. I don't think it's fair to users for me to drop all this without sufficient warning. 1.2 comes out in the next few weeks and 2.0 is expected by the end of 2007. I plan on seeing 1.2 and a few of the maintenance releases make their way into FreeBSD tree. With 1.2 will come enabled amd64 support and better stability. (amd64 support has actually worked for a while but there hasn't been an amd64 tinderbox available until recently.) But as 2.0 ramps up I'd like to hand the reigns over to someone else more interested and more capable of maintaining it. For anyone interested in Mono on FreeBSD, please, join the BSD# mailing list. You can find more information about it on the BSD# homepage listed in my sig. I'm also on Freenode's #BSD-Sharp from 20:00 EDT to 23:00 EDT most evenings after work. Occasionally I'm available on there during the day while at work too. There's always something for an interested and motivated party to do. We could use more C# application ports. There's also a lingering crash that happens on occasion when people attempt to build Mono which typically goes away on the next try. =20 Realistically, I plan on stepping down in the next three months or so but I will hang around longer if it looks like someone wants the responsibility for everything. I'll always be around to wrangle update PRs as well. Mono was fun for some time but it's just come time for me to move on. tom --=20 | tmclaugh at sdf.lonestar.org tmclaugh at FreeBSD.org | | FreeBSD http://www.FreeBSD.org | | BSD# http://www.mono-project.com/Mono:FreeBSD | --=-qyWHTO1gSV+gAj/Phho5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFP6rH4zniJeL3s9gRAhxCAJ4m9HWwY3nUulad69LAoIUoegDhuQCglDux utO9AZoDPJgcVnpXmBwwc4Q= =Vz8X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-qyWHTO1gSV+gAj/Phho5--