From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 14 13:50:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86470106566C for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@maxlor.com) Received: from mxout002.mail.hostpoint.ch (mxout002.mail.hostpoint.ch [217.26.49.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEE58FC24 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.2.10] (helo=asmtp001.mail.hostpoint.ch) by mxout002.mail.hostpoint.ch with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NVQ63-000Bsc-F0 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:50:47 +0100 Received: from [82.136.101.114] (helo=atlantis.intranet) by asmtp001.mail.hostpoint.ch with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NVQ63-0008RZ-AL for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:50:47 +0100 Received: from [192.168.10.167] (pub212004072186.fx-hfc.datazug.ch [212.4.72.186]) by atlantis.intranet (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 110A51A553 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:50:47 +0100 (CET) X-Authenticated-Sender-Id: mail@maxlor.com From: Benjamin Lutz To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:50:45 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <201001141016.56877.mail@maxlor.com> <867hrkx52s.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4B4F1CA0.3070000@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: <4B4F1CA0.3070000@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> X-Face: $Ov27?7*N,h60fIEfNJdb!m,@#4T/d; 1hw|W0zvsHM(a$Yn6BYQ0^SEEXvi8>D`|V*F"=?utf-8?q?=5F+=0A=09R2?=@Aq>+mNb4`,'[[%z9v0Fa~]AD1}xQO3|>b.z&}l#R-_(P`?@Mz"kS; XC>Eti,i3>%@=?utf-8?q?g=3F=0A=094f?=,\c7|Ghwb&ky$b2PJ^\0b83NkLsFKv|smL/cI4UD%Tu8alAD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201001141450.45713.mail@maxlor.com> Subject: Re: How Fetchmail made me a spammer X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:50:49 -0000 On Thursday 14 January 2010 14:31:12 Programmer In Training wrote: > A possible solution, but who likes IMAP? I much prefer POP3 and having > the mail locally (I delete it from the server once it's copied). Heh, I do, actually. The whole setup is aggregating mails from different mail accounts and mailservers outside of my (or this user's) direct control, so they can be made available via IMAP, to be perused with any client machine from anywhere. > Also, it seems as if he's downloading it from the other users (the > person who sent the email) mail server and there is no way to force the > other mail server to use one standard over another (although in this > case a useless thought). The problem is it was not able to get into the > local mail queue because of certain default settings (which at one time > probably made sense). Yup, that's how it is. They're making the emails available via POP3, and I have to live with it. At least they support more than plain text password authentication by now. > I do think a 20MB email is rather ridiculous. Even with today's age of > broadband I wouldn't allow files over 10MB and I would make sure my > users noticed that. I would also have a hard bounce enabled for messages > that went over the size limit. Personally, I agree that email is not a particularly efficient means for file transfer. I don't see a reason to be draconic about the size though; there's enough bandwidth and diskspace available so that allowing large emails doesn't have much of an impact with a low volume setup such as mine. And everyone else can set up their limits however they like. Cheers Benjamin