From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 2 23:15:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1B637B428 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 23:15:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020403071547.COAN15826.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 07:15:47 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g337FjA55051; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 23:15:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 23:15:45 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Terry Lambert Cc: Peter Wemm , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Emiel Kollof Subject: Re: kldxref problem Message-ID: <20020402231545.J52193@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20020403061531.B07353808@overcee.wemm.org> <3CAAA697.451C3196@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3CAAA697.451C3196@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 10:52:07PM -0800 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 10:52:07PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > Quite the thread from hell... ;^)... This is nuthin'. But one reason it continues is... > Peter Wemm wrote: > > Using buildkernel/installkernel is your biggest mistake. It is no secret > > what I think of those two targets. > > I have to agree with this. They are attempts to idiot-proof > something that can't be idiot-proofed, because idiots are so > cunning. 8-). > > The real problem here is that these targets are such monsters > that they really can't be cross-targets. The doc stuff is > particularly nasty, viben that there are maybe 19 sets of > packages that have to be sucked down and installed to make > it work, because they aren't part of the default system, and > they aren't in the source repository. When the FTP.freebsd.org > blew up a while back, the only place you could get the tools > the the proper versions was a combination of a site in England, > a sunsite site, and two personal directories that lived on a > machine in Japan. Where'd this observation come from? buildkernel/installkernel don't pull packages from anywhere. Building the doc tree has almost nothing to do with building world or kernel from the source tree. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message