From owner-freebsd-security Thu Jul 13 20: 7:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F6437BB45 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 20:07:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8E31E1C6E; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:07:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:07:22 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: Brett Glass , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Displacement of Blame[tm] Message-ID: <20000713230722.M4034@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <2753.963529551@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20000713190150.04b9fc80@localhost> <4.3.2.20000713210451.00cf81c0@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000713210451.00cf81c0@207.227.119.2>; from jeff-ml@mountin.net on Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 09:57:15PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 09:57:15PM -0500, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > >I can't help it if I bring up thought-provoking (or discussion-provoking) > >topics. Those just happen to be the kinds of things I'm interested > >in. (Hopefully, this will prove to make me a good organizer for the > >conference next week.) I realize that it requires an asbestos suit to > >bring up some topics, and that some people who don't like online > >brainstorming or vigorous debate may tune out (PHK and DES are two > >unfortunate examples of people who have associated me with such things > >and therefore have blocked me personally). It's sad, but hey -- they're > >free to filter what they read as they see fit. > > Controversial would be a better term or maybe sensitive. Bikeshed, useless, time wasting, inane all come to mind. Brett, you're not the martyr you think you are. Don't be a hero. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CHIMES e-mail: billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message