From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jun 10 00:56:36 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23B13422E7 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 00:56:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49hT8N4qv4z4Ccq for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 00:56:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A5D07342D49; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 00:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5958342EE3 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 00:56:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49hT8N3t4Gz4Cn5; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 00:56:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@freebsd.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 199D6132E2; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 00:56:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@freebsd.org) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 00:56:33 +0000 From: Glen Barber To: Clay Daniels Cc: Emmanuel Vadot , "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" , re@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nightly snapshot for CURRENT ? Message-ID: <20200610005633.GO97889@FreeBSD.org> References: <20200609214756.13e9cbbc2de12bbb78839875@bidouilliste.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SEFvVLxbW/dEDtN8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 00:56:36 -0000 --SEFvVLxbW/dEDtN8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 07:16:47PM -0500, Clay Daniels wrote: > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 2:48 PM Emmanuel Vadot wro= te: >=20 > > > > Hello all, > > > > I've just hit again something that I've hit (and probably others too) > > often. > > If a change in base break some ports and it's snapshoted in the txz > > available at download.freebsd.org, you need to wait a week for the next > > tarball to be available. > > Since poudriere uses the tarball when you setup a jail it means that > > the only solution you have is to recreate your jail by building it, and > > since building world nowdays is very expensive that delay your work too > > much. > > Would it be possible to generate the tarballs every day instead of > > every week ? At least for tier-1 arches. > > >=20 > At first I thought you were referring to the weekly snapshots packaged as > install images: > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/13.0/ >=20 > But I think you are talking about the snapshots of each part, like base, > kernel, ports. src, etc to use as a roll your own install like: > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/arm64/13.0-CURRENT/ >=20 > From my selfish perspective as a weekly installer of the regular Thursday > image or iso of 13.0 Current, I would hate to lose the pre-rolled > installer, and I think there are probably others like me. As long as you > keep the weekly install snapshots, it will not affect folks like me. I mu= st > say that what you want to do is how NetBSD does their daily current > snapshots, and they do not even offer pre-rolled install images. >=20 > But you are a real developer and I'm just a retired guy playing with his > hobby, so go ahead and do what you think is best for you. >=20 I agree with exactly with your point here, which is why I would like to back-burner this topic until next week. Just FWIW. 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