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Subject: Re: ssh window
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Garrett Wollman wrote:
> In article <20080613025157.GA90190@lor.one-eyed-alien.net>, Brooks
> Davis writes:
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 06:30:05PM -0700, Peter Losher wrote:
>>> FYI - HPN is already a build option in the openssh-portable port.
>> I do think we should strongly consider adding the rest of it to the base.
> 
> Am I the only one who would be happier if openssh were not in the base
> system at all?

Quite possibly :)

I don't think it's at all viable to ship FreeBSD without an ssh client 
in this day and age.

Kris