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Date:      Sun, 6 Oct 2024 16:17:01 -0400
From:      David Cross <dcrosstech@gmail.com>
To:        Marek Zarychta <zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl>
Cc:        David Cross <david@crossfamilyweb.com>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Review D38047 ... and then there was one....
Message-ID:  <F5ADF6BE-DAF9-4741-A1DD-EDB81A3F6786@gmail.com>
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">Hmm. It shouldn’t fail in that way regardless. Which version of freebsd are you running on?</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 6, 2024, at 4:14 PM, Marek Zarychta &lt;zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">

  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">W dniu 6.10.2024 o&nbsp;22:04, David Cross
      pisze:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:5FCA5CA0-7F07-44A7-95A3-672AB8C2C6A1@crossfamilyweb.com">
      <pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">Here’s the thing. The current implementation of nscd DOESN’T WORK at all. There is a symbol that nscd exports that libc is supposed to use as a flag to bypass lookups  for nscd itself. But that symbol isn’t exported right. 

You will need to recompile libc and nscd. (I just do a buildworld to make sure i get everything as there are makefile changes related to the aforementioned symbol changes. 
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    <p>Yes, without world installed this patched nscd won't even start:</p>
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    <p>[host] /usr/src# service nscd start<br>
      Starting nscd.<br>
      limits: setrlimit pipebuf: Invalid argument<br>
      /etc/rc.d/nscd: WARNING: failed to start nscd<br>
      <span style="white-space: pre-wrap">
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      <pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">And then after that make sure to check getgroupentries too</pre>
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    <p>The number of groups is much lower, so the whole difference is
      like 0.01 vs 0.02 s, but yes, lookup is 100% faster when nscd&nbsp; is
      not running (regardless to the state of the&nbsp; application of&nbsp; the
      patch).<br>
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        <pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">On Oct 6, 2024, at 3:57 PM, Marek Zarychta <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl">&lt;zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl&gt;</a> wrote:

W dniu 6.10.2024 o 20:35, David E. Cross pisze:
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          <pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">Please, love to get some eyes on this.  As it stands nscd is completely useless for LDAP for getgroupmembership (and really ANY implementation that defines a specific implementation of getgroupmembership, since it will then bypass the non-existent NSCD version).  Additionally it fixes bugs with negative caching as well as increases thread safety.
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        <pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">Thank you for this patch. I am not competent to review this code, but can test it. Really, our nscd with LDAP is a nightmare. I have set filters to narrow lookups, but with full directory, when  nscd is runnig I have have such timings:

[host] ~# /usr/bin/time getent passwd &gt; /dev/null
        0.62 real         0.06 user         0.15 sys
[host] ~# /usr/bin/time getent passwd &gt; /dev/null
        0.47 real         0.07 user         0.12 sys
[host] ~# /usr/bin/time getent passwd &gt; /dev/null
        0.46 real         0.04 user         0.15 sys

After stopping nscd service:

[host] ~# /usr/bin/time getent passwd &gt; /dev/null
        0.15 real         0.03 user         0.06 sys
[host] ~# /usr/bin/time getent passwd &gt; /dev/null
        0.16 real         0.01 user         0.08 sys

Unfortunately, with this patch applied there is no much improvement:

[host] ~# /usr/bin/time getent passwd &gt; /dev/null
        0.65 real         0.03 user         0.19 sys
[host] ~# /usr/bin/time getent passwd &gt; /dev/null
        0.48 real         0.02 user         0.22 sys
[host] ~# /usr/bin/time getent passwd &gt; /dev/null
        0.43 real         0.06 user         0.12 sys

The test were run on most recent stable/14 with net/nss-pam-ldapd as a Name Service Switch module for LDAP lookup.

--
Marek Zarychta

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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Marek Zarychta</pre>
  

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