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cm9tICANCnlvdS48L3NwYW4+PC9zcGFuPjwvcD4NCg0KPC9kaXY+DQo= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 14 14:19:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E59C1A55 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC4572E81 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-74.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A14F27743; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 15:19:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rAEEJQWs002018; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 15:19:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 15:19:26 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Thomas Mueller" Subject: Re: Updating from 9.2 to 10.0-BETA3 Issues.. Message-Id: <20131114151926.1113010f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8E.9E.19454.0E854825@cdptpa-oedge03> References: <044201cee0ee$c0bc0970$42341c50$@leadmon.net> <8E.9E.19454.0E854825@cdptpa-oedge03> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Howard Leadmon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:19:46 -0000 On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 05:00:16 +0000, Thomas Mueller wrote: > You are advised to rebuild all ports on a major version change > such as 9.x to 10.x. Or if you can't or intendedly refuse, use the compat9x port. But be careful when starting to install new programs: Mixing old and new ones can get really terrible, so the suggestion of re-installing all ports is probably the better one. > You will want to be sure to install ports-mgmt/pkg and > ports-mgmt/portmaster at the start of rebuilding all ports. > > FreeBSD has switched from pkgtools to pkgng, on by default > in FreeBSD 10.0, hence the need for ports-mgmt/pkg. In that case, if I may ask, why didn't pkg become part of the OS then if it's the system's package management system? Such as the old pkg_* tools were part of the OS distribution, why does 10.0 still require additional software to get "matters of the OS" running? The same question can be asked about the transition from CVS to SVN, where CVS:SVN == csup:? ... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...