From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 27 9:41:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mango-bay.com (mail.mango-bay.com [208.206.15.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1824037B41A for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2002 09:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from barbish ([63.70.155.39]) by mail.mango-bay.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52377U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id com; Sat, 27 Apr 2002 12:41:04 -0400 From: "Joe & Fhe Barbish" To: Cc: "FBSDQ" Subject: RE: Hello Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 12:41:02 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <002801c1ee00$fc2c0ac0$0100a8c0@station1> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I totally agree with Joe Gwozdecki's post and expand on it with this. FBSD is distributed on CDROM. http://www.bsdmall.com/freebsd1.html and http://www.bsdcentral.com/ sell an 4 cd set for $40.00 plus shipping. I bought this one time before I know better. You only need the first CD, it contains the FBSD install, the rest of the other 3 remaining CD's contain selected applications that you can install on FBSD. These application can to outdated all most as soon as they are cut to the release cd, so one finds them selves using the online ports collection to install these applications any way. The revenue from these sales is what supports the acquisition of server equipment and internet access for the web sites used to administrate the FBSD project. If you want to do your part to support the FBSD project, then by all means purchase the 4 cd sets every time a new version is released, about four times a year. An alternative is just to purchase the single FBSD install cd. As of FBSD version 4.4 the above BSD sponsored sites do not sell just the single install CD. But www.linuxcentral.com does sell it for $3.00 plus shipping. The direct URL is http://www.linuxcentral.com/catalog/index.php3?prod_code=L000-122&id=NwnVzqF 8aBeag This is the point where many new want-a-be users start saying, but it's suppose to be free. Well FBSD is free, free to use as in no licensing fee to pay, as in you have free access to the source code, and free access to the ISO CD images of the 4 cd set from a FBSD FTP server. But the production of making the 4 cd set and the marketing of the install cd set is not free. You have to pay for that service. ISO cd images The FBSD 4 CD set is available from many FBSD FTP sites. Many people think they can just download the ISO image, burn it to CD and away they go. Well here a news flash for you, it's not that easy. First of all the ISO image is not supported in the MS/Windows world. Sure you can download it and burn it to an CD using MS/Windows, but you end up with a data disk, not an bootable CD, which it has to be to install from. The second major problem is you need a fast internet connection, (IE: ISDN,DSL,CABLE) to download over. Using an 56K modem will take over 28 hours per CD if you are lucky enough that your ISP does not cut you off or the FTP server does not get busy and suspend your session. The FBSD online handbook does explain a way of using floppies to load a simple FBSD system that you can then use FTP to download the complete system. In most cases this process is way beyond the capabilities of the first time FBSD user. To get and use the FBSD ISO install CD image you need to download it and write it to CD using an FBSD system and if using an dial up modem your FTP session must be able to restart from where it left off. So lets be realistic, the first time installer of FBSD has to purchase at the bare minimum the single install cd from www.linuxcentral.com to get started. Doing so will result in you installing the current production version of FBSD and enabling you to receive the maximum level of support from the FBSD questions mailing list. I highly recommend the single install cd method for all inexperienced FBSD users. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Joe Gwozdecki Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 11:34 AM To: Brandon Cruz; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hello If you are a first time user, you would do yourself a big favor by getting the cd's from www.freebsd.mall It also helps to support the organization. Otherwise, you most likely are in for a frustrating experience. Unless, of course, you are a pro. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Cruz" To: Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 10:43 PM Subject: Hello > Hello there, my name is Brandon Cruz and I was wondering how I could > download the FreeBSD for my computer. It would be great of you to answer > me back as soon as you could. Thanks very much. > > Brandon > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message