From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Feb 15 16:07:07 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F221814DFA7D for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 16:07:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Received: from mail4.protonmail.ch (mail4.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.protonmail.ch", Issuer "SwissSign Server Silver CA 2014 - G22" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9174A6FF36 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 16:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 16:06:57 +0000 To: FreeBSD Questions From: Lorenzo Salvadore Reply-To: Lorenzo Salvadore Subject: Re: "Smartness-free" web browser? Message-ID: <2Gje1zHyY4F4xdAjUygdYrv0s4_NPauqPcpmN5Uh6S3D_3kOP-StUCF5zZyamJ-kLWpkO1mkpQkOSglyhTFszdHgLfUNr5Q3W9iMjeWn8os=@protonmail.ch> In-Reply-To: <4fc0f22a-c901-aa8c-e083-adbeef12a525@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <4fc0f22a-c901-aa8c-e083-adbeef12a525@kicp.uchicago.edu> Feedback-ID: X6az_D2smWSR8MT5MHqXnWF0upxehDyHia7Id1cbayHNBUkRu3CIeusDsZHiivIIjmaKB1_OofpALrRUYjNz3w==:Ext:ProtonMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mail.protonmail.ch X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9174A6FF36 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.83 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[phascolarctos@protonmail.ch]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:185.70.40.0/24]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mailsec.protonmail.ch]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[protonmail.ch:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[protonmail.ch,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.976,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[27.40.70.185.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19905, ipnet:185.70.40.0/24, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[protonmail.ch.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[protonmail.ch:s=default]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-3.75)[ip: (-9.84), ipnet: 185.70.40.0/24(-4.90), asn: 19905(-3.92), country: US(-0.07)]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 16:07:07 -0000 > On 2/15/19 9:23 AM, Arthur Chance wrote: > > > On 15/02/2019 15:18, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > > > Dear Experts, > > > I am looking for "Smartness-free" web browser. In the past I was usin= g > > > midori, but today I was bitten in my backside by "smartness" introduc= ed > > > into latest midori. > > > Why. I have a bunch of machines with older 3ware RAIDs. The last I lo= ved > > > for having web interface. To the contrary to command line, especially= in > > > case of hardware RAID management, it is much more difficult to screw = up > > > when using GUI. > > > In the past, when firefox went all the way about SSL certificates, > > > midori was my life preserver. I do access these RAID web interfaces > > > locally, and I do know what's going on inside these machines... I can > > > disable SSL in 3ware RAID daemon (this time it just doesn't accept > > > certificates 3ware daemon presents - to way for me to affect that tha= t I > > > can find) but... I just don't like some piece of software thinking it= is > > > smarter than I am when I use it. Dough. > > > Any suggestions, anybody? > > > > Depending on how much graphic decoration the GUI uses, maybe a text > > based browser like lynx might serve your needs? > > Thanks for suggestion! > > Alas, 3ware uses frames which lunx doesn't support... I did not understand very well your requirements (my fault: I think I lack = experience in what you are doing), but I can suggest two web browsers that are pretty = basic. I usa falkon, which is the new version of qupzilla. I choosed Qupzilla/Falk= on for its simplicity: it always does what I ask without fancy useless things, and if = something gets in my way, I can usually disable it. However it is based on qt5, thus = it might be too complex for your needs. In that case, I am pretty sure dillo makes your deal: it's awful, unusable = for any modern website (at least, this is my opinion). But it might be perfect for you, I = think it can deal with your web interfaces. Lorenzo Salvadore.