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Date:      Sat, 19 Oct 2002 18:33:51 -0700
From:      Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>
To:        Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Sam Leffler <sam@errno.com>, Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>, developers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Commit message routing (was: cvs commit: src/contrib/tar/src extract.c misc.c) 
Message-ID:  <20021020013351.CFF802A896@canning.wemm.org>
In-Reply-To: <20021020012358.GB75033@wantadilla.lemis.com> 

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Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> On Saturday, 19 October 2002 at 21:06:35 +0300, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 10:29:41AM -0700, Sam Leffler wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Sam Leffler wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Oddly, I got this message, see your commits in the logs, but didn't get
> >>> the actual commit message from your change.  Did the commit abort part wa
    y
> >>> through for some reason?  I've noticed some other flakiness relating to
> >>> FreeBSD.org mail in the last week or two: I get all re@FreeBSD.org mail i
    n
> >>> a timely manner except messages from Murray (?), but other members of re@
> >>> seem to get them sometimes.
> >>
> >> Yup, mail left my side but never appeared.  Since one can't look at
> >> /var/log/maillog on hub there's nothing I can do to track this down (or an
    y
> >> of my other problems with mail to freebsd.org).
> 
> What's stopping you from looking at the log on hub?
> 
> > Just to point out the obvious: it is not just hub now; since the CVS
> > repository is on ncvs.FreeBSD.org, it stands to reason that the
> > commit scripts execute there, and any mail setup problems there
> > would prevent commit messages from even reaching hub.
> 
> No, that's not correct.  Here are some of the headers of a recent
> commit message:
> 
>   Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119])
>           by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625FA8123B
>           for <grog@lemis.com>; Sat, 19 Oct 2002 19:02:38 +0930 (CST)
>   Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18])
>           by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C4255CDC
>           for <grog@lemis.com>; Sat, 19 Oct 2002 02:32:27 -0700 (PDT)
>           (envelope-from owner-cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org)
>   Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix)
>           id 95BEC37B486; Sat, 19 Oct 2002 02:32:24 -0700 (PDT)
>   Delivered-To: grog@freebsd.org
>   Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538)
>           id 7124037B406; Sat, 19 Oct 2002 02:32:22 -0700 (PDT)        
>   Delivered-To: cvs-committers@freebsd.org
>   Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125])
>           by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
>           id 4A21337B401; Sat, 19 Oct 2002 02:32:21 -0700 (PDT)
>   Received: from repoman.freebsd.org (repoman.freebsd.org [216.136.204.115])
>           by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
>           id F11F143E88; Sat, 19 Oct 2002 02:32:20 -0700 (PDT)
>           (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org)
>   Received: from repoman.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
>           by repoman.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9J9W3mV032882
    ;
>           Sat, 19 Oct 2002 02:32:03 -0700 (PDT)
>           (envelope-from sobomax@repoman.freebsd.org)
>   Received: (from sobomax@localhost)
>           by repoman.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9J9W3Oo032881;
>           Sat, 19 Oct 2002 02:32:03 -0700 (PDT)
>   Message-Id: <200210190932.g9J9W3Oo032881@repoman.freebsd.org>
> 
> There's also obviously no delivery problem here; the whole thing took
> 33 seconds.

More than 2 or 3 seconds is a delivery problem.

The path is:  ncvs -> mx1 -> hub -> mx2 -> end user.

We should be able to do the first four hops within about a second as long as
nothing is wrong.  Unfortunately, there was something wrong.  ncvs had
a load average of 23 due to about 40 stuck cvs processes that were spinning
in userland.  sendmail on ncvs was rather unhappy about that and delivered
lots of things out of order and after significant delays.

Cheers,
-Peter
--
Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com
"All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5


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