From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 06:39:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C57CB42B3 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 06:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A73551226 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 06:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v0I6UtpE042371 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 17 Jan 2017 23:30:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v0I6UtEa042368; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 23:30:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 23:30:55 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: David Christensen cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop In-Reply-To: <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> Message-ID: References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 17 Jan 2017 23:30:56 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 06:39:14 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, David Christensen wrote: > On 01/16/17 20:05, Sergei Akhmatdinov wrote: > > Thanks for the reply. > > >> On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:16:59 -0800 >> David Christensen wrote: >>> [snip] >> >> First of all, using your own Xorg.conf is very deprecated, I suggest you >> allow X to configure itself, i.e., remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf > > I have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf: > > dpchrist@freebsd:/usr/home/dpchrist $ l /etc/X11/ > ./ ../ > > >> and/or /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf files and simply run startx. > > I generated xorg.conf.new per the manual section 5.4.8: > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html The Quick Start section at the very top shows the right way to do this. That is, do not generate an xorg.conf at all. Way down in the Manual Configuration section, it says: In some cases, Xorg autoconfiguration does not work with particular hardware, or a different configuration is desired. For these cases, a custom configuration file can be created. This is clearly not emphatic enough. It should say: DO NOT GENERATE AN XORG.CONF FILE UNLESS ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED! I do not know but suspect the font section is obsolete. However, I have not investigated that. >> Do you have both hald and dbus running? Only dbus is required for xfce. Although the packages might require hal, don't know.