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Date:      Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:42:27 -0600
From:      Karl Denninger  <karl@mcs.net>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, mckusick@mckusick.com
Subject:   Re: kirk's soft-update integration..
Message-ID:  <19980203214227.21335@mcs.net>
In-Reply-To: <34D7DBB6.33590565@whistle.com>; from Julian Elischer on Tue, Feb 03, 1998 at 07:08:38PM -0800
References:  <34D7D0B0.500F9F30@whistle.com> <19980203203526.20512@mcs.net> <34D7DBB6.33590565@whistle.com>

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On Tue, Feb 03, 1998 at 07:08:38PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote:
> Karl Denninger wrote:
> > 
> > How is this a "poison pill"?
> > 
> > I don't see the problem - FreeBSD, which is what this would go into, is
> > already available in source and object form at no cost or for the reasonable
> > distribution cost (if you buy a CDROM).
> > 
> >
> 
> the problem is not for freebsd, but ISPs and such who may be
> tempted to use it to put on systems they place at custommer's premises.
> 
> Whistle has a license, but the GENERIC system as distributed probably 
> couldn't have it compiled in.
> 
> I myself am not to clear on the terms..
> maybe kirk (who is CC'd) can give a non-binding "This is what I mean"
> interpretation for us?
> It's to whistle's advantage to integrate these changes back some time
> this
> year, but it's up to each commercial user to negotiate with Kirk I
> guess.


Why?  The source is STILL available, even in that case.

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> 
> > >
> > > the license is:
> > >
> > > /*
> > >  * Copyright 1997 Marshall Kirk McKusick. All Rights Reserved.
> > >  *
> > >  * The soft updates code is derived from the appendix of a University
> > >  * of Michigan technical report (Gregory R. Ganger and Yale N. Patt,
> > >  * "Soft Updates: A Solution to the Metadata Update Problem in File
> > >  * Systems", CSE-TR-254-95, August 1995).
> > >  *
> > >  * The following are the copyrights and redistribution conditions that
> > >  * apply to this copy of the soft update software. For a license
> > >  * to use, redistribute or sell the soft update software under
> > >  * conditions other than those described here, please contact the
> > >  * author at one of the following addresses:
> > >  *
> > >  *      Marshall Kirk McKusick          mckusick@mckusick.com
> > >  *      1614 Oxford Street              +1-510-843-9542
> > >  *      Berkeley, CA 94709-1608
> > >  *      USA
> > >  *
> > >  * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
> > >  * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
> > >  * are met:
> > >  *
> > >  * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
> > >  *    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
> > >  * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
> > >  *    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in
> > > the
> > >  *    documentation and/or other materials provided with the
> > > distribution.
> > >  * 3. None of the names of McKusick, Ganger, Patt, or the University of
> > >  *    Michigan may be used to endorse or promote products derived from
> > >  *    this software without specific prior written permission.
> > >  * 4. Redistributions in any form must be accompanied by information on
> > >  *    how to obtain complete source code for any accompanying software
> > >  *    that uses the this software. This source code must either be
> > > included
> > >  *    in the distribution or be available for no more than the cost of
> > >  *    distribution plus a nominal fee, and must be freely
> > > redistributable
> > >  *    under reasonable conditions. For an executable file, complete
> > >  *    source code means the source code for all modules it contains.
> > >  *    It does not mean source code for modules or files that typically
> > >  *    accompany the operating system on which the executable file runs,
> > >  *    e.g., standard library modules or system header files.
> > >  *
> > >  * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY MARSHALL KIRK MCKUSICK ``AS IS'' AND ANY
> > >  * EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE
> > > IMPLIED
> > >  * WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE
> > > ARE
> > >  * DISCLAIMED.  IN NO EVENT SHALL MARSHALL KIRK MCKUSICK BE LIABLE FOR
> > >  * ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR
> > > CONSEQUENTIAL
> > >  * DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE
> > > GOODS
> > >  * OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION)
> > >  * HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT,
> > > STRICT
> > >  * LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY
> > > WAY
> > >  * OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY
> > > OF
> > >  * SUCH DAMAGE.
> > >  *
> > >  *      @(#)ffs_softdep.c       9.12 (McKusick) 12/2/97
> > >  */



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