From owner-freebsd-net Wed Mar 5 0:59:29 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8777537B401; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 00:59:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9A643F93; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 00:59:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from dialup-209.245.134.12.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.245.134.12] helo=mindspring.com) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18qUkA-0002YM-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 00:59:19 -0800 Message-ID: <3E65BB24.3E37D90D@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 00:53:56 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Bishop Cc: Peter Wemm , Mike Barcroft , Tim Robbins , freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version References: <3E6539B5.2F5D31B@mindspring.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20030305084442.037e9fa0@gid.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a46d87ca3c496d9e3a738bd6810ba7b878350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bob Bishop wrote: > Here's a hint: > > "The Apollo Domain and XNS networking protocols will no longer be offered > after Cisco IOS Release 12.2. Information about these protocols will not > appear in future releases of the Cisco IOS software documentation set." > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1835/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a008007fba7.html > > He's dead, Jim. The code is still useful as a simple implementation, much more easily understood by the student than the current TCP/IP stack, for certain. Given that the current TCP/IP stack no longer matches the Stevens books, and given that Stevens is too dead to update the books to the new FreeBSD stack, even if he wanted to, it's useful to have a relatively simple set of code that can be understood without a book that's not getting written. Also, it's interesting from the perspective of people with living Xerox Alto hardware (not many, but they do exist), but I fully admit that that's not a compelling reason. On the other hand, there's no compelling reason to dike it out, if it can be made to work. I would argue that ISA support is more or less just as obsolete, as is 486 support, as is the F00F bug workaround, as is ... a lot of code that's still there. In any case, Peter pointed out that my patch was against -stable, not -current. I'm in the process of CVSup'ing new sources now, and will update the patch against -current, and post it, most likely tomorrow morning, if the CVSup doesn't complete in the next hour. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message