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Date:      Sat, 16 Dec 2023 21:25:11 +0100
From:      "Patrick M. Hausen" <hausen@punkt.de>
To:        FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Odd values for various memory metrics via SNMP
Message-ID:  <1EDAF2AC-3A2B-43BE-B66B-E095F5A80C2C@punkt.de>

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Hi all,

what's the best platform/list/forum/... to discuss issues with the SNMP =
implementations
for FreeBSD? Since I started to dig deeper into Obervium I found that of =
all the systems
I own only the FreeBSD based ones present some challenges regarding the =
interpretation
of memory metrics.

1. I confirmed that this is not an Observium artefact. LibreNMS and =
manual snmpwalk
give the same results.

2. This is independent of the question if you use net-snmp (FreeNAS, =
OPNsense) or
bsnmpd in base (my Raspberry Pi cluster).

3. These are the systems concerned:

- OPNsense - FreeBSD 13.2, AMD64, 8 G of RAM, net-snmp
- FreeNAS - TrueANS CORE, FreeBSD 13.1, AMD64, 64 G of RAM, net-snmp
- 7 Raspberry Pi CM 3+, AARCH64, 1 G of RAM, bsnmpd

4. The "odd" metrics:

- "Real Memory"

OPNsense: 762 of 768 M (yes!) used, flagged "red" in Observium, of =
course
FreeNAS: 35.9 of 36.1 G used
All the Pis: 178 of 179 M used

All - see hardware description above - no connection to the "real real" =
memory installed.

For comparison: ESXi 8.0: 26.7 of 31.9 G used - the system has got 32 G =
of RAM installed.

- "Shared real memory"

OPNsense: 97.1 of 103 M used
FreeNAS: 593 of 774 M used
Pis: 11.8 of 12.4 M used

- Shared virtual memory

Only systems running net-snmp have this, bsnmpd based ones don't.

OPNsense: 166 of 233 M used
FreeNAS: 1028.27 M of 1.49 G used

- Virtual Memory

Again, only via net-snmp.

OPNsense: 5.03 of 5.11 G used
FreeNAS: 628 of 628 G used - that's particularly weird for a system with =
64 G of RAM
	installed and not swapping or anything.

For comparison: my only Linux based system: 12.7 of 29.6 G used - the =
system has
	16 G of RAM plus 16 G of swap, that seems to match the "29.6".


For me these numbers don't make any sense at all. The motivation to =
write this email:
I am planning to use SNMP based monitoring, probably Observium, for all =
our data
centres, which means > 100 FreeBSD based hosts. The point of a =
monitoring/management
system is that anything flagged "red" is a real problem that needs =
attention and the default
state should be "everything super green". Things flagged "red" but =
"everybody knows
it can be ignored" bind a huge amount of brain capacity on behalf of the =
operators. Not good.


So what is going on here? What do these numbers actually mean? Where do =
they come
from? Are they artefacts of the SNMP implementation not taylored =
perfectly for FreeBSD
or are they some real metric that ends up interpreted wrong in the NMS =
(Observium)?

Thanks and kind regards,
Patrick
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