From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 08:52:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9084106566B; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:52:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de [217.11.53.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1718FC19; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p5796D942.dip.t-dialin.net [87.150.217.66]) by mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E2EDF8443F3; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:52:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.Leidinger.net [IPv6:fd73:10c7:2053:1::3:102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AB26579E; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:52:42 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1329900762; bh=9atuVoR89cVpGJMmVHG4a+BS7EWHEkd31FcnHICcjDQ=; h=Date:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=Kaxhq1MX9YVabL8yv2zKGapWjuw3dC+qxAWckLYQenwB25nO3ucpm5uO8RBWXbDPR 8+NOBuDs/Dv3LzEUq4FOL1Zgtf56j10DWXLgFP9ayvFAxDkpE/BUZRcfTjlgO849CU To9tt99tvBTuFx1AJ4D5XfJd2SGrpDah9t64Bcq1fjvRtZZBIO8I01UcmC0hFbK2cs CM/zVl12tKxMg1OcZj2hf1mU3t3OJITSqJQOi/+Y/gjDcjzV3NzL7d32F3ow1Psw2u GnqMvdnyGNfcrqunZ8MUfaaLmbbO2pfVDYj+TQGpcbn7ykCrDH0K1tO/NozEFtoVxk D72qnkgGftcGw== Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.5/8.14.4/Submit) id q1M8qfWT093768; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:52:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail.leidinger.net: www set sender to Alexander@Leidinger.net using -f Received: from 85.94.224.21 ([85.94.224.21]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:52:41 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:52:39 +0100 Message-ID: <20120222095239.Horde.0hpYHJjmRSRPRKzXsoFRbYk@webmail.leidinger.net> From: Alexander Leidinger To: Marius Strobl References: <20120221155640.Horde.Bp73Z5jmRSRPQ7CoFzta95A@webmail.leidinger.net> <20120221224251.GE50474@alchemy.franken.de> In-Reply-To: <20120221224251.GE50474@alchemy.franken.de> User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H4 (5.0.18) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-EBL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-EBL-MailScanner-ID: E2EDF8443F3.A53EE X-EBL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-EBL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, spamhaus-ZEN, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.453, required 6, autolearn=disabled, AWL -0.65, DKIM_SIGNED 0.10, DKIM_VALID -0.10, DKIM_VALID_AU -0.10, TW_CX 0.08, TW_MX 0.08, TW_NX 0.08, TW_XG 0.08, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.01) X-EBL-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-EBL-MailScanner-Watermark: 1330505565.9914@fecugoxhQ3XNU7C5cEqWaQ X-EBL-Spam-Status: No Cc: gallatin@FreeBSD.org, np@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NICs not in GENERIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:52:59 -0000 Quoting Marius Strobl (from Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:42:52 +0100): > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 03:56:40PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >> Hi, >> >> is there a specific reason that the following NICs are not (or shall >> not be) in GENERIC (at least on i386)? >> - if_cas: is compiled as a module, Sun hardware, non-x86 only? >> - if_cxgb >> - if_cxgbe >> - if_gem: is compiled as a module, Apple/Sun, non-x86 only? >> - if_hme: is compiled as a module, Sun hardware, non-x86 only? >> - if_ic: no man-page >> - if_ipheth: no man-page >> - if_mos: USB NIC >> - if_mxge >> - if_my >> - if_nxge >> - if_vtnet: virtual NIC for hypervisors >> > > As for cas(4), gem(4) and hme(4) the corresponding MACs also exist as > add-on cards and these drivers work just fine on x86 (actually should > do so on all architectures). Although some people also use or at least > used these cards in x86 machines, I thought it still would be uncommon > enough to put cards built for OFW machines into x86 ones to deliberately > not add these drivers to the x86 GENERICs. Fell free to do so if you > want though. The GENERIC kernel on i386 takes about 15 MB on disk. The modules for cas/gem/hme take about 115 KB. It does not look like this would hurt from a file size perspective, but would give the benefit of users of the GENERIC kernel to have those NICs work out of the box in the installer. Bye, Alexander. -- A person who has nothing looks at all there is and wants something. A person who has something looks at all there is and wants all the rest. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137