From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 25 11:48:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aesthetic.detachment.org (aesthetic.detachment.org [208.11.244.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D2B37B42C for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aesthetic.detachment.org (Postfix, from userid 5001) id 6A3D219316; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:48:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:48:02 -0400 From: thomas r stromberg To: Bill Fumerola Cc: jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Bug/Enhancement Handling (was 4.1.1 release) Message-ID: <20000925144802.A54903@rtci.com> References: <9290.969217479@winston.osd.bsdi.com> <20000917151348.A66839@jade.chc-chimes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000917151348.A66839@jade.chc-chimes.com>; from billf@chimesnet.com on Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 03:13:48PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 17-Sep-2000, Bill Fumerola popped this into my mailspool: > On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 12:04:39PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > > There is a direct correlation between the Submitter being ignored by > > > the Assigned To and the Submitter ignoring the Assigned To. > > This entire thread has us both agreeing on the fact that the existing > system doesn't work, and we both have little to offer in the way of > working systems short of chaining committers to workstations feeding them > bread and water and someone cracking a whip[1]. Whatever did happen to modernizing the gnats database. I know some ideas of Keystone and Bugzilla were thrown around.. Where did that get canned? I myself think that Mozilla's Bugzilla organization (not necessarily the software) works great. A lot of cateogories with a default assignee, actual followups being made, scheduled release milestones, etc. Theres a few guys reviewing how important stuff is, and all around, a lot of responsibility. I need not mention the evil PDT crew :) If it means anything, a lot of people are moving to this system.. @home, RedHat, LokiGames, etc.. so there is at least some support. I myself have pretty extensive experience with Keystone, and a bit with Bugzilla. While I feel Bugzilla is more tuned for this then Keystone, I'd like to see *SOMETHING* done. I myself would happily volunteer to help get something setup in this regard... just tell me who or what to strangle. GNATS is fine and all, I just think something else is needed with the kind of scale we're looking at now. I'll even hack at the command-line tools if need be. I just think this should be more important to us then we give it credit. If this should go in another list, feel free to prod me. -- thomas r. stromberg : tstromberg@rtci.com senior systems administrator, rtci : http://www.afterthought.org/ \( freebsd - turning doorstops into production webservers )/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message