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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190910070033.GA29721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190910071826.GA28277@mail.bsd4all.net> <9006d11c-4e93-ee5b-26ef-3c62187b5d84@panix.com> From: Per Hedeland Message-ID: <22b944ba-f383-3790-d21a-9721348cd366@hedeland.org> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 19:17:34 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9006d11c-4e93-ee5b-26ef-3c62187b5d84@panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46T7rL1sTqz4Bkt X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of per@hedeland.org has no SPF policy when checking 64.68.202.10) smtp.mailfrom=per@hedeland.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.72 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[209.157.228.81.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.32)[ipnet: 64.68.200.0/22(-0.12), asn: 16686(1.81), country: CA(-0.09)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.65)[0.646,0]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.95)[0.955,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hedeland.org]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[10.202.68.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 17:17:39 -0000 On 2019-09-11 18:48, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: >>> >From /usr/src/UPDATING: >> >> 20150102: >>> The GNU texinfo and GNU info pages have been removed. >>> To be able to view GNU info pages please install texinfo from ports. >> >>> Herbert >> >> Better than the user-unfriendly GNU info is pinfo, in FreeBSD ports category misc. > > As a workaround, you can also use Emacs. C-h i browses the info tree that comes with Emacs. With a numeric argument (eg C-u C-h i), it asks for the pathname of an info file. Handy if you use Emacs > anyway. I don't agree with calling it a workaround - the info mode that you enter with C-h i is a full-fledged info viewer AFAICS, "advanced" rendering and lots of fancy info-specific navigation commands... And at least if emacs is installed from ports/packages, you get a menu based on *all* the files in /usr/local/share/info, not just those that come with emacs - actually the default list of directories is Info-directory-list is a variable defined in ‘info.el’. Its value is ("/usr/local/share/emacs/info/" "/usr/local/share/info/" "/usr/local/info/") Documentation: List of directories to search for Info documentation files. ... - I actually have a couple dozen files in /usr/local/info too, all from ports/packages. > I agree that if the base system includes info files, it should include a reader. However, /usr/local/share/info is not part of the base system; that's ports/packages. My current system doesn't have > /usr/share/info. +1 --Per