From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 14 18:02:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38CADF4D for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:02:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f170.google.com (mail-ie0-f170.google.com [209.85.223.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F047BD12 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:02:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: by iesa3 with SMTP id a3so49941968ies.2 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 11:02:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to; bh=2WbzwNWat8IGRcf4lmZClPI7L0FhEncOzUvBuFkHCqY=; b=l+umxnZutW0/HjlyszTD6VE7tqAJ2sZiRnnLKlyRBI/v2wTaymkTFi4eJAHGhV6i55 b9FjMc/ZqkTeh4+EuINBabWOv4s02Iw7fLOtIQ2uMaXXMpjeHPbFek1qvpZ2TBn/YC9z NVyt28C/It0eIArvwasUzhxGglbwRCC+eYpHgumD0R7j1HqAho+ygVHDbuT+3C4SMs2z vJNaG7MKfB8UQdXxCqTgvO9wP7qzlaQQg5M/HTcMOym9GbfVsx8aICxk/m3vzkE89cCL 2HmgWu/kUIckWIUD4r5ndNzytWbt/lSS7Ii/JdciInBHewVhbLONoTw4x9RKlqMEwmLu hvIQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQms2XiJMcSFO0lPuThSdEEk/kjGC4B58llbbasAmVguM7pLK3XqxbRvhHe3MtgwPN+sEWe2 X-Received: by 10.50.136.134 with SMTP id qa6mr16192462igb.26.1434304937036; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 11:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netflix-mac.bsdimp.com ([50.253.99.174]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b15sm5860110igm.12.2015.06.14.11.02.15 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Jun 2015 11:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Warner Losh Subject: Re: svn commit: r284198 - head/bin/ls Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BDEAEA4E-8523-4235-8F39-B832F2C13448"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5b6 From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:02:16 -0400 Cc: Adrian Chadd , "src-committers@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" Message-Id: <7A2A6548-BADA-40AE-879E-7DE294023A12@bsdimp.com> References: <201506100127.t5A1RdX6051959@svn.freebsd.org> <20150612204309.11dd3391@kan> <20150613024916.GA98218@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <1434208622.1415.57.camel@freebsd.org> <557C661F.8080104@freebsd.org> <860017ED-D754-450C-865D-2D81A30C2212@xcllnt.net> <20150614002640.GA2746@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> To: Craig Rodrigues X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:02:18 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_BDEAEA4E-8523-4235-8F39-B832F2C13448 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Jun 13, 2015, at 9:22 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > > > I guarantee that no matter what you've worked on, there's > > approximately five orders of magnitude of shipping devices whose > > entire storage space can be measured in 1 digit megabytes. Each year. > > (And yes - there's an appreciable set of them for which freebsd boots, > runs and keeps running on them.0 > > You can buy em too, some of them even under $60. > > Can FreeBSD now not run on these systems because of libxo? Yes. The root image sizes for a reasonable subset of the system now exceeds the flash that I have on my embedded arm boards. I have to spill over onto the SD card if I want to make progress. Some trimming could be done, but 11 images are quite a bit bigger than 10 images for the same software. 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