From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 18:01:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33401065679 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [65.122.17.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B15E8FC14 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBSI1UMs036973 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:01:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:01:30 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:01:30 -0500 (EST) Cc: Subject: xorg 7.4 questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:01:31 -0000 I have been trying to get xorg 7.4 first going and then updated. I have some general questions. First using xdm it takes from 3-5 minutes to start. Second, using hal and dbus even starting is an adventure. Once it started in well under a minute but mostly it just locks up. In reading Xorg.0.log and xdm.log, I see no errors. Is my time-to-start out of line? Using hal and dbus was working fine until I attempted updating xorg using portmaster, trying 'portmaster -n -PP xorg'. This gave me a list that seemed reasonable so I tried it for real, getting an error about finding an archive that I did not understand and the man page did not address. So I installed portupgrade and the 'hal dbus' version of xdm stopped working. I view this as coincidence but switching back to not using hal and dbus and using the ati driver (rather than radeon) works. As it appears that kde4 depends on having xorg updated, I am kind of stuck. Is the time-to-start an indication that I have a basic hardware issue and all my other symptoms derive that that? My last question is does kde4 require hal or dbus to be activiated? Doug _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277