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Date:      Thu, 03 Jun 1999 19:14:03 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
To:        Jaye Mathisen <mrcpu@internetcds.com>
Cc:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
Subject:   Re: Matt's Commit status (was Re: 3.2-stable, panic #12)
Message-ID:  <XFMail.990603191403.vev@michvhf.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9906031549390.285-100000@schizo.cdsnet.net>

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On 03-Jun-99 Jaye Mathisen wrote:
> 
> I second this.  Even if it's a bit painful, somebody who has been working
> diligently at this needs to be able to be make their work usable quickly.
> I would guess that not too many things hinder progress, or quash desire
> more than fixes to problems languishing.
> 
> There has to be some middle ground somewhere that lets Matt get his fixes
> in quickly, and still doesn't ruffle too many core feathers.
> 
> I had the opportunity to hear some of the core side recently, and I
> certainly sympathize or empathize with the issue, but nobody else has
> stepped up to fix the NFS problems, and I would like to see this
> opportunity capitalized on.

Not knowing the FULL story from both sides, I feel it'd be inappropriate
if I were to comment on it.  However knowing Matt's coding abilities, 
having seen the eruption here a few months ago, and the past splits that
IIUC were due to core problems, perhaps an oversight board (for lack of
a better description) consisting of zero core people and zero committers 
may help to stop or solve some of these erruptions before they spill out
into the public's view.  Who does a coder, committer, core member, etc,
have to turn to if (s)he feels (s)he's getting the shaft?  Not anything
aimed at you (Jordan) or David, but let's face it - you two have enough
to do without having to worry about the petty crap that seeps out as well.

Vince.
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