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Date:      Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:00:47 -0700
From:      Greg Lewis <glewis@eyesbeyond.com>
To:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Patrick Lamaiziere <patfbsd@davenulle.org>, Jung-uk Kim <jkim@freebsd.org>, freebsd-java@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: java diablo-jdk
Message-ID:  <20121014160047.GA98503@misty.eyesbeyond.com>
In-Reply-To: <20121010102806.GC26497@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net>
References:  <20121009231547.1f4cfa57@davenulle.org> <5074C1D7.3040209@FreeBSD.org> <20121010102806.GC26497@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net>

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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:28:06PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 08:31:19PM -0400, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
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> > On 2012-10-09 17:15:47 -0400, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I do not see the point to keep diablo-jdk as a build dependency of 
> > > java. Is there something that prevent us to distribute a package
> > > of openjdk, just to be able to built a native version of openjdk
> > > or sunjdk ?
> > 
> > No.  The only problem is we have to provide entire sources + our
> > patches along with the tarball *somewhere*, just to comply with GPL.
> > 
> > > I'm tired of the "fetch the diablo-jdk from FreeBSD and agree with 
> > > the license". And even more since I use poudriere to build 
> > > packages.
> > > 
> > > The FreeBSD java support is not bad (I'm happy with it, I can do 
> > > all my Java developpement on FreeBSD using netbeans and openjdk) 
> > > but this dependency on diablo really sucks. We don't need this 
> > > IMO.
> > 
> > There are actually two possibilities, i.e., a) build openjdk from
> > completely open-sourced and bootstrap-less environment or b)
> > distribute special binary openjdk tarballs only for bootstrapping.  b)
> > is pretty straight forward (albeit the source distribution problem)
> > and I am working on it as an interim solution.  A preliminary port is
> > here:
> > 
> > https://redports.org/browser/jkim/java/bootstrap-openjdk
> > 
> > However, I believe a) is the ultimate solution, e.g., ECJ/GCJ + GNU
> > classpath + CacaoVM/JamVM/Avian, etc.  (VMKit/LLVM is in my wildest
> > dreams...)
> 
> Being able to bootstrap using ECJ/GCJ would be awesome :D

This is what icedtea does.

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