From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Jul 18 18:13:57 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A931B9D79C for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22c.google.com (mail-io0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D35B1BAD for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id 38so167214317iol.0 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 11:13:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=6opzlbusGxLmFl+yy1ZY0PTDmv2LhV3R+pLT79C9RuM=; b=kcfPBdMTf0M7/S5zUZGLQqy/1ZzIbsWkD0og/YbDzK9Ua17o71vVsbgXP9zAgfn51a xA6RlZBE6hnwF2b+1bRnpcs+DExrSt383N/fNaAkV1iqA4f7ph0Fq1x9Ki5WYwJqkBv1 uAC7V7Cu7QyhYfqbbCzmczcW34Si2VJk5X5q2YpvoAuD1kd9l47mCCr6y5PE+q32OSxj xmWZCPOM8E4K4HJguGqR7r1nuyYdWOOCwhqd+PdCQRI9l/Zpc6qGSFRCI7+co9UVjysy Xe+K9liiOiaoe6JbYMEC9H8TySm0aZ3elcezxwRSrZoMWczOP0uyT9ScBgKCPNu7wMsk 5LjA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=6opzlbusGxLmFl+yy1ZY0PTDmv2LhV3R+pLT79C9RuM=; b=iDL5UZ6Q2K+g15efH8fOydeOnb5YOmL6R1sutz2W2qrCqn0qCzNpzl4wfeY9IvAGdY Y4RoZVe3AgxaQZ9Z4wwY+uB+z6Njb7ncQepUDz+wGy0/tXufSrnDczg2hyjycC3wpYlk NU9lcaQTV5QsZbwmfgPx98S+kkpyLQXz97mmtPw/MuVQRJbiInHlofEFrpOPK/pB/0E6 q9EmPX+TFDXgOZk4OKRc12r7IWyYt5uMt1NmTa74oObWMUyyaX0ICDdpEGa5DRYN/h9U gC16O8nN4tEXn+GyvLIch0H+Fbg/SJEfLt+AJT4rvyzSbyXefY+5HhRm/atEXUo4CPaP 3Efw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJoMNAM4kNoz2r4EEmf9F1pM3hk88/mmDARSkQQidKBv+hBxrJvzbtHGB7XnieDRF6o8NMT6GIXTT3wPA== X-Received: by 10.107.25.14 with SMTP id 14mr34076968ioz.168.1468865636618; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 11:13:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.79.78.213 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 11:13:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1167694931.3702710.1468584584907.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1167694931.3702710.1468584584907.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <93bd3635-7be0-0fad-35e2-2a202b990a90@denninger.net> <516799068.3859323.1468609314427.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 11:13:56 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eFPZscDOdwyRiSuaQQZblIRWiYI Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problem with FreeBSD-11.0-Beta1 To: Filippo Moretti Cc: Karl Denninger , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:13:57 -0000 Filippo, If you missed it, this is a known issue in BETA1. https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=211141 It was nothing you did wrong, but it does not look like there is a fix at this time. Please go to the FreeBSD Bugzilla and add your report to confirm that this is not a problem unique to a single user. Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Filippo Moretti via freebsd-stable < > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> The system was installed as 11_CURRENT and I did not have any issue until >> ALPHA-4.I did install everything from portsand I did install all of the >> /etc during mergemaster and mergemaster -p.I do have a another disk with >> 10.3-STABLE but I never tried to run applications from current in stable or >> the other way.Filippops I did delete an old library I rebuilt windowmaker >> and I have no complaint about it >> >> > And, how did you go from ALPHA-4 to BETA-1? If you updated sources and > rebuilt world and kernel, it should have been fine. If you tried > freebsd-update, that might explain it as that method is documented as > broken in BETA-1. I am uncertain what might happen if you tried this. I'd > expect that the BETA-1 update files would have been removed. > > Somehow your password file seems to have lost all of the users since the > move from ALPHA-4. I suspect /etc/group might have done the same, but I am > not sure. You might merge all users from the 10.3 system using vipw(8) and > do the same with your preferred to /etc/group. I have no idea what other > things might be broken, though, nor how it happened (assuming you did not > use freebsd-update). > > -- > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 > > > On Friday, July 15, 2016 6:31 PM, Karl Denninger >> wrote: >> >> >> On 7/15/2016 11:17, Kevin Oberman wrote: >> > 11.0 has not been released. You are much more likely to get a useful >> > response from current@. >> > >> > On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 5:09 AM, Filippo Moretti via freebsd-stable < >> > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> wrote: >> > >> >> I have the following problem when I start the system: >> > >> > >> >> Unknown user name "avahi" in message bus >> >> configuration fileUnknown user name "polkitd" in >> message >> >> bus configuration file >> >> Unknown user name "polkitd" in message bus >> >> configuration fileUnknown user name "colord" in >> message >> >> bus configuration file >> >> Unknown user name "pulse" in message bus >> >> configuration fileUnknown user name "polkit" in >> >> message bus configuration file >> > Unknown user name "haldaemon" in message bus configuration >> file >> > >> > Failed to start message bus: >> > >> > Could not get VID and GID for username "messagebus" >> > >> > /etc/rc:Warning:failed to start dbus >> > >> > On the same computer I have a disk with 10.3_STABLE with the same >> >> configuration files and everything is working properly.When in X I >> launch >> >> firefox I get the following errorLibGL error: >> > failed to open drm device:Permission denied >> > >> > LibGL error :failed to load driver: r 300 >> > >> > This is very likely due to failure to start dbus >> > >> > sincerely >> > >> > Filippo >> > >> > >> > Note: I have tried to recover the mail format above. Whatever mail tool >> you >> > used totally garbled things by removing line breaks. >> > >> > First, how did 11.0Beta-1 get installed? How sis your ports (X11, dbus, >> > pulseaudio, etc.) get installed? When moving from one major release to >> > another (10 to 11), you need to reinstall all ports/packages. The >> > installation process is what creates these"users". >> > >> > It looks like you are just trying to run the things in /usr/local from >> your >> > 10.3 system. This simply will not work. >> > -- >> > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer >> > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com >> > PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 >> >> Actually it SHOULD work unless you deleted the old libraries (in which >> case it definitely won't!); the dynamic loader is smart enough to do the >> right thing and load the correct (older) version of the shared libraries >> required. >> >> If this has been broken in recent releases IMHO that's not so good. >> There *are* instances where an older binary is all there is for a given >> application (e.g. from a vendor!) and thus backward compatibility when >> you roll forward the operating system is something that a lot of people >> (myself included) have both used and relied on for a very long time. >> >> Yes, I understand that you can't *count* on that working, particularly >> if the app in question makes explicit reference to things in the kernel >> environment. But absent that they certainly should run. >> >> One instance where they didn't was with the armv6/armv6hf case where the >> floating point format changed, but that happened in the -CURRENT >> environment where ABI breakage is a known (and thus accepted) risk of >> running -CURRENT. (That particular one manifested in some nasty ways >> too in that going the "wrong way" would result in a binary that >> executed, did not produce any exceptions or traps, but produced >> incorrect floating-point results! I have code "in the wild" that checks >> for this specific circumstance on startup "just in case"....) >> >> Now if you do perform a merge and only accept part of it you can get in >> a lot of trouble with user and group IDs and similar, which is what >> appears to have happened here. It's pretty easy to get bit by that if >> you have local changes in your passwd and group files (and most people >> do), "leave them for later" and then don't go back and merge the new >> entries by hand. That sounds like what's occurred here; check in >> /var/tmp, assuming you told mergemaster to keep it when done. >> >> Since the svn repo for stable/11 is now there and when checked out >> builds BETA1 this IMHO appears to be the right place to discuss it. >> >> -- >> Karl Denninger >> karl@denninger.net >> /The Market Ticker/ >> /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >