From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Dec 18 11:13:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5A314F3C for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 11:13:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-14-49.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.14.49]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA26590 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 13:13:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA96741 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 1999 13:13:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199912181913.NAA96741@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "freebsd-chat" From: David Kelly Subject: Re: windows debate In-reply-to: Message from "David Schwartz" of "Fri, 17 Dec 1999 20:08:18 PST." <000601bf490d$84164e00$021d85d1@youwant.to> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 13:13:42 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "David Schwartz" writes: > 2) Much of the ease-of-use that Windows brings is mythical. Windows > computers are really not that easy to use. And they're especially hard to > troubleshoot and maintain. Making computers easier to use just allows less > competent people to get into more trouble. How much lost productivity is due > to this? (Ever heard of the productivity paradox?) I agree. If Windows was so easy to use, how come there is such a large demand for MSCE's (or whatever the letters)? Why isn't there a similar proportional demand of same for Macintosh? When Windows gets wonked I find FDISK.EXE is the fastest way to get running again. My sometimes-NT machine is bitching about several things failing at start. All seem to have something to do with Microsoft-style networking and the fact somebody put an NT Server on our net after my machine was up and running stand-alone. Also Dr. Watson chimes in complaining it can't do something. The event log isn't helping. Thought I'd try to re-install on top of an installation, BSOD. On another machine the boss's wife saw the choice of NT Workstation 4.0 or same with SVGA. Well, SGVA sounded better than without, so she chose that. It deleted the ATI Rage drivers and ran in awful SVGA mode. Even on reboot to non-SVGA. I found the drivers, eventually. That is the one example I can think of where I've actually been able to repair a broken NT installation. I've learned before, I've learned again, should have started repair of my machine with FDISK. My FreeBSD partition needs to be bigger anyhow. And my copy of Applixware is in the mail! -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message