From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 2 00:08:53 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC694A4FCD for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 00:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lee@adminart.net) Received: from mo6-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de (mo6-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de [IPv6:2a01:238:20a:202:5300::8]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.smtp.rzone.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4606vm2d03z4QDQ for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 00:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lee@adminart.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1564704529; s=strato-dkim-0002; d=adminart.net; h=References:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH:From:Subject:Sender; bh=byzNbOtG6JMLmXMjHIQnM0PbL2LVnc+pBzHYf6DVhtY=; b=j+JCQ/0fhwtySTRb5gw+9Eh9wDBKEuCL4a1CuvGvkceDQc8yEvHDipM56sOl4xqCf4 SpUnMln+uzc5/Fv0QN8hCsndGIj/WWz1MHbqCpQugcDz8FjKtJBrNdCqLfLHxgpREEON oCDYGfU6a0OLIii3ooy3oxHCu/U0JC87eTeEknnTagUJdsr+H0Lxi9r3WvzZrtptlnT1 o5P+UztabiHiNail8lsvvaAMGQV7om7NfjthZSvZyYGUuuEuxi21iSb6ASNIducuUaXS 2/oqbja8la5x0PUHt6VYcpX58eQpUHn911WmubYRlLKyNWrnFdiykPV/Qb2qZiQCnn+B wkAg== X-RZG-AUTH: ":O2kGeEG7b/pS1FS4THaxjVF9w0vVgfQ9xGcjwO5WMRo5c+h5ceMqQWZ3yrBp+ARdaXvxIDf7nlw=" X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from himinbjorg.adminart.net by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 44.24 DYNA|AUTH) with ESMTPSA id e0059dv7208mV2i (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (curve secp521r1 with 521 ECDH bits, eq. 15360 bits RSA)) (Client did not present a certificate); Fri, 2 Aug 2019 02:08:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from toy.adminart.net ([192.168.3.55]) by himinbjorg.adminart.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1htL7o-0000vH-Dr; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 02:08:48 +0200 Received: from lee by toy.adminart.net with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1htL7o-0001mg-0I; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 02:08:48 +0200 From: hw To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: thunderbird in German? In-Reply-To: <20190731012754.3783a859.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Wed, 31 Jul 2019 01:27:54 +0200") Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 01:22:42 +0200 Message-ID: <878ssc5v3x.fsf@toy.adminart.net> References: <87o91bw4mx.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20190731012754.3783a859.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4606vm2d03z4QDQ X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=adminart.net header.s=strato-dkim-0002 header.b=j+JCQ/0f; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lee@adminart.net has no SPF policy when checking 2a01:238:20a:202:5300::8) smtp.mailfrom=lee@adminart.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.15 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[adminart.net:s=strato-dkim-0002]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[adminart.net]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[adminart.net:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[hw@adminart.net,lee@adminart.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.3.5.2.0.2.0.a.0.2.0.8.3.2.0.1.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6724, ipnet:2a01:238::/32, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[hw@adminart.net,lee@adminart.net]; IP_SCORE(-0.75)[ipnet: 2a01:238::/32(-3.27), asn: 6724(-0.45), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 00:08:53 -0000 Polytropon writes: > On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 00:15:34 +0200, hw wrote: >> Hi, >> >> is there a way to get the GUI of thunderbird in German? > > Yes. But it depends on the version you're using (and the same > problem applies to Firefox). The hints I'm providing are therefore > derived from ongoing trouble (language-wise) with Firefox, so > check which and what applies to Thunderbird. :-) > > I'm not sure _which_ language variable has the desired effect, > but you can try setting those (example taken from ~/.cshrc): > > setenv LANGUAGE de > setenv LC_ALL de_DE.UTF-8 > setenv LANG de_DE.UTF-8 > setenv LC_ALL de_DE.UTF-8 > setenv LC_MESSAGES de_DE.UTF-8 > setenv LC_COLLATE de_DE.UTF-8 > setenv LC_CTYPE de_DE.UTF-8 > setenv LC_MONETARY de_DE.UTF-8 > setenv LC_NUMERIC de_DE.UTF-8 > setenv LANG de_DE.UTF-8 > setenv MM_CHARSET de_DE.UTF-8 > > It could also be possible that one of those (taken from > ~/.login_conf) could be the one(s): > > me:\ > :charset=UTF-8:\ > :lang=de_DE.UTF-8: Thanks! IIRC, I've set 'lang' (or 'LANG') and MM_CHARSET; I'll try the others, too. > Additionally, check TB's configuration if you find a "built-in > means" to select the interface language (as it seems to be now > in FF). I already did and didn't find anything. > It is probably hidden somewhere in the preferences "pages" (no idea > why "modern" software tends to make things more complicated than it > should be). Don't get me started on these programs ... Nowadays, users are not sufficiently competent to have preferences ... > Also make sure to check it after upgrades which might cause TB to > switch back to English (same problem with FF). > > As I'm writing this, I guess _that hint_ is the thing you should > be looking for _first_. :-) I haven't upgraded them, this is a new installation of FreeBSD in a VM which I intend to use as an xrdp server for some kind of thin clients which I haven't entirely figured out yet. (I tried Thinstation and the images didn't turn out bootable, apparently because I somehow cloned only 2.5 or so of the 18GB and stuff seemed to be missing from the images I made ... It'll probably work sooner or later ...) >> After installing and enabling a German language pack as an addon (not to >> be confused with a German dictionary (which is also installed for just >> in case)), the GUI still remains in English. > > Those add-ons don't seem to work anymore. Version mismatch > combined with improper or missing signing (same trouble as > in FF). It seems they aren't needed anymore. Then why doesn't it say so? >> Is this a general problem >> with the language pack or something specific to FreeBSD? > > Not FreeBSD-specific. It's one of the typical problems of > "constant change" when dealing with Mozilla software... :-/ Is there a usable alternative to Thunderbird for an IMAP client?