From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 20 18:08:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A36716A4D3 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:08:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd3mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195FD43DC0 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:08:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dfarmour@myrealbox.com) Received: from pd4mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.213]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IGS00M04VO7UV90@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:07:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml9so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.7]) by pd4mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IGS00I9EVO7JY90@pd4mr2so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:07:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from S0106000d87ae2db6.gv.shawcable.net (S0106000d87ae2db6.gv.shawcable.net [24.108.146.24]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IGS00F4VVO6CX@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:07:18 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:09:04 -0700 From: David Armour In-reply-to: <20050520165023.EB3B316A4D4@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, tshadwick@goinet.com Message-id: <200505201109.05441.dfarmour@myrealbox.com> Organization: dfarmour.org MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050520165023.EB3B316A4D4@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Subject: Re: Pine (Tony Shadwick) & giving in to temptation(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 18:08:04 -0000 hello, > I'm getting more and more tempted to start up a wiki for newbies on good > package management practices and port management. get on with that, wouldya? > The handbook seems to deal well with these things once you know lots of ways to get yourself into lots of deep water, yes. and a large disparity between beginners and experts. > Granted, an argument could be made that you should read the handbook cover > to cover before you begin. ;) Who actually DOES that though? there are large portions of the handbook that demonstrate vividly just how profound my lack of understanding remains, despite repeated attempts. i'd definitely welcome an intermediate level documentation. and a convenient means to confirm a) accuracy and b) timeliness, both of which seem non-trivial to me, would also help. regards.