From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 24 16:09:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D656FE8C for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:09:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.lhr1.as41113.net (mail.lhr1.as41113.net [91.208.177.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BCF17AD for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.21.87.41] (unknown [212.9.98.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lists@rewt.org.uk) by mail.lhr1.as41113.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3fXnyc0jXNz7rBW; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <530B6C3D.1080906@rewt.org.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:58:53 +0000 From: Joe Holden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: ntpd replacement (Was: Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent) References: <20140223211155.GS1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <530B13CA.6000005@rewt.org.uk> <33612.1393235765@critter.freebsd.dk> <20140224100036.GA1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <530B2500.5030608@rewt.org.uk> <37319.1393239415@critter.freebsd.dk> <530B2750.3050200@rewt.org.uk> <20140224110842.GA83610@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <530B2953.3030901@rewt.org.uk> <20140224111745.GA13864@roberto-aw.eurocontrol.fr> <530B2C7E.3050208@rewt.org.uk> <530B2DEE.3030808@rewt.org.uk> <45248.1393249947@critter.freebsd.dk> <530B666A.1000800@rewt.org.uk> <45663.1393256407@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <45663.1393256407@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:09:34 -0000 On 24/02/2014 15:40, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <530B666A.1000800@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: > >>> Please check how NTP is authenticated before giving bad advice, >>> it's all in the RFC. >>> >> v3 or v4? It is an optional part of the spec in both cases and again >> isn't required for 99% of people using ntpd as a client, which was the >> entire point of this exercise in the first place. > > Authentication of NTP is rapidly gaining focus these days, for obvious > reasons, so I think adopting software now which don't support it would > be needlessly shortsighted. > > 3 years ago I would have agree with you, but not now. > Fair enough, that isn't the real problem we are facing but rather than derail this thread even further I think it would be best to discuss that another day :)