From owner-freebsd-java Sat Feb 20 15:24:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.volant.org (phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E11119D7 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:24:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patl@phoenix.volant.org) Received: from asimov.phoenix.volant.org ([205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org with smtp (Exim 1.92 #8) id 10EHmg-0005jY-00; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:09:50 -0800 Received: from localhost by asimov.phoenix.volant.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA04451; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:58:59 -0800 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:58:59 -0800 (PST) From: patl@phoenix.volant.org Reply-To: patl@phoenix.volant.org Subject: Re: somewhat new to java questions To: Vince Vielhaber Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Fri, 19 Feb 1999, Mike Jeays wrote: > > The dilemna I'm looking at (which is solved with Java) is something > that will safely take credit card info and move it to another machine. > While it's true that I can get a secure web server and a certificate, > lets face it.. Someone's smokin dope if they think a new business is > gonna have the cash and overhead to implement such a thing. My choices > were the linux e-commerce thing for $100 (which I almost did but the > folks at RedHat couldn't seem to send me a copy of the license), going > illegal and running apache-ssl without the license, getting the license > from RSA (at US$10K) or taking the advise of an old professor that had Stronghold isn't nearly that expensive (I think it's around US$1K now.) It's basicly a fully licensed Apache with SSL. http://www.c2.net/ And it's a tax-deductable business expense. (If you value your time as low as $25/hr, you'd still need to be able to develop your app in less than 40 hours to break even; even without counting the tax deduction.) > a question that we were to always ask ourselves before answering, "Can > I do it better?". The only palletable answer was, "Yes, I can do it > better". So I wrote a java applet that uses noone's copyrighted, > patented, pay-me-to-use-it encryption schemes and appears to be secure > enuf to use. Right now the only requirement is that Netscape 4.5 be > used. One day I hope to be able to release it so everyone can benefit. What encryption schemes does it use? And what do you do about customers that might not want to, or might not be able to run Java applets? Personally, I wouldn't knowingly trust my credit card number to anything that hadn't been thoroughly reviewed by the crypto wonks... -Pat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message