From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 11 21:30:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA18748 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 21:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18743 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 21:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20954; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 14:27:58 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 14:27:58 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Tony Li cc: Julian Elischer , rls@mail.id.net, spork@super-g.com, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: T1 upgrade options? In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970711171713.00e01550@etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, dennis wrote: > At 11:56 AM 7/11/97 -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > >Tony Li wrote: > >> > >> Yes, they are small, but even a 4MB card is plent to run routing > services > >> off of. There are several FreeBSD distributions out there that are > >> "router floppies", where you fit everything you need onto a 1.4MB disk > >> (except for gated, which is our problem). So you'd be in heaven with > 4MB. > >> > >> Well, you're better than I am. ;-) In trying to get kernel, gated, basic > >> Unix utilities, and remote access utilties (what, you wanna WALK to your > >> router?) into a single place, I came up a wee bit bigger. > >> > >> In any case the flash disks run up to 190MB or so. Enough for a > >> distribution, but not enough to have things vanilla. > >> > >> Tony > > > >Use 'crunch' like the boot floppy does. > >you can fit almost the whole of /bin, and /usr/bin in 4MB using that. What I've been toying with recently is the idea of a kernel with a MFS running in 16 or 24 MB RAM, booted from a floppy. You can get a boot floppy to configure the ethernet and establish basic routes, and then use fetch to retrieve things like gated and sshd into the MFS. A machine configured as 8 MB RAM, 8 MB swap and 8 MB MFS should have enough utilities to run a router which can be remotely administered. /* Daniel O'Callaghan */ /* HiLink Internet danny@hilink.com.au */ /* FreeBSD - works hard, plays hard... danny@freebsd.org */