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[74.125.224.54]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 956f58d0204a3-6699136a3d5sm487669d50.1.2026.08.04.04.57.34 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Aug 2026 04:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yx1-f54.google.com with SMTP id 956f58d0204a3-669944f60b3so141596d50.1 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2026 04:57:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AHgh+RrHy7krQDjejt7iNg8AFmVedQG0uN00gwZhd1qFcErZhF4iD6c1OT+lZRXqlGDFwUacK0A=@freebsd.org X-Received: by 2002:a05:690e:4845:b0:668:27c1:9a0a with SMTP id 956f58d0204a3-6694f0c97b7mr13200171d50.24.1785844654218; Tue, 04 Aug 2026 04:57:34 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: X11 List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-x11 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <86y0en9gpa.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <86qzkf9fox.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <86bjbi9o76.fsf@ltc.des.dev> In-Reply-To: <86bjbi9o76.fsf@ltc.des.dev> From: Tomek CEDRO Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 13:57:22 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: AUfX_mzPkuMBgIXuvj_solWtSjLZs557z1v49msMChxxUybwk4IYUB0l0F11avw Message-ID: Subject: Re: X.org works on <= 14.3, unusable on >= 14.4 To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag=2DErling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= Cc: Gleb Popov , x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4hDsVY65n6z3vXp X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Tue, Aug 4, 2026 at 10:26=E2=80=AFAM Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav wrote: > (..) > The only variable here is the kernel. A 14.3 kernel works great, a 14.4 > kernel with the exact same 14.3 world and packages and the exact same > configuration does not. You did rebuild and reinstall drm / kms / intel drivers from ports on the new kernel and kernel sources right? "14.4 kernel with the exact same 14.3 world" may be the cause here, drm/kernel might have changed a bit in the meantime, this is a known issue. Always good to reinstall packages after upgrade even between minor releases, especially the drm stuff (and other ports provided drivers), it caused boot -> kernel panic loops after upgrade not that long ago, now it may not crash but cause strange behavior even if it loads :-P -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info