From nobody Sat Oct 28 12:37:40 2023 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SHfFN0WPlz4ynqd for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 12:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@twisted.org.uk) Received: from toybox.twisted.org.uk (toybox.twisted.org.uk [178.250.76.50]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SHfFL2wBkz4bw0 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 12:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@twisted.org.uk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=twisted.org.uk header.s=tbx header.b=GGKkEsrE; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pete@twisted.org.uk designates 178.250.76.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pete@twisted.org.uk; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=twisted.org.uk DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=twisted.org.uk; s=tbx; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To :From:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=YDKGVj7wbXAV5WermY5cOFYPQ/nE5/I6vzYUmDLAygc=; t=1698496662; x=1699360662; b=GGKkEsrE2Sl5PND6pMiTWE/xqsjz9BXr3/YWB/ek+pTJW7IG9mL2YhmWJyX/zIg81HdPHcWYQDt muYwXnQ8SmRrecHYV+57wxI96p7tP29bMaLDLxcyhojg5BWkAM8o5vEA2aAHemDhgR84DprNND3mm 7S+wYbGExxKxRz0sP2QhxpzWRvFuGbGPS5mvbKyO5uRZ2fio/hDy6b2Q4bg8QpogFCTKbHLOAuv0v 1j5ZX4cvfUdzlgCqhw6QrmndC+0SWgjVu3wpEJibAsO2NjfHOqlW/rjPZRM248/maOBi8cCgnLU8Q rMB5XK+9D2DYKuiV94NpMUi/ahGJv/cStg3g==; Received: from mailnull by toybox.twisted.org.uk with spamc-scanned (Exim 4.95 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1qwiZQ-000Byq-Pl for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 12:37:41 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5 (2021-03-20) on toybox.twisted.org.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5 X-Spam-Score: -1.0 () Received: from balta.twisted.org.uk ([2001:470:6cc4:1::57]) by toybox.twisted.org.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.95 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1qwiZQ-000Bym-Nk for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 12:37:40 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 13:37:40 +0100 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Version of OpenSSH in FreeBSD 14.0 Content-Language: en-GB To: stable@freebsd.org References: <20231028083010.0f880289@opendev.home> <5a16a0e2-34c2-4bcf-bfbe-aec980955fcf@twisted.org.uk> <20231028114211.7e0eceaa@opendev.home> From: Pete French In-Reply-To: <20231028114211.7e0eceaa@opendev.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-spamc-toybox: true X-transport-toybox: lookuphost X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[twisted.org.uk,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:178.250.76.50/32]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[twisted.org.uk:s=tbx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12290, ipnet:178.250.72.0/21, country:GB]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[stable@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[twisted.org.uk:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SHfFL2wBkz4bw0 X-Spamd-Bar: --- On 28/10/2023 12:42, Roger Marsh wrote: > Thread you cannot find is: > > https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=169824753806131&w=2 Ah, thanks. I tried the OpenBSD site, but it seemed to require a login. > On OpenBSD the default for ObscureKeystrokeTiming is on, value 'yes', and it can be turned off, value 'no'. Intervals can be specified too: quoting OpenBSD 7.4 'man ssh_config' for ObscureKeystrokeTiming "The default is to obscure keystrokes using a 20ms packet interval.". > > Disabling fixed the problem. The default in FreeBSD 14 is for ObscureKeystrokeTiming to be on as well. I just did an 'ssh -G' and checked that. Am glad I know about this though, as I know its something to try if I start seeing issues when I upgrade, so this has been very useful ;) > Looks like the problem will go away after I upgrade to FreeBSD 14.0. Hopefuly! Could you run it up on a VM and check ? I never run point releases, so I will be going to 14-STABLE as soon as 14.0 comes out so my tests are not on exactly the same thing. But should be close enough. Am doing another 14 upgrade today on my test machine to get a minor upgrade to ssh in fact... -pete.