From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jun 3 16:24:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (smtp0.mindspring.com [207.69.200.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5290314D7D for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:24:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahasty@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (user-33qsoi7.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.98.71]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00057; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:24:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37570ED8.A83B82F@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:25:12 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vince Vielhaber Cc: Jaye Mathisen , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Matthew Dillon , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: Matt's Commit status (was Re: 3.2-stable, panic #12) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It is a nice idea and I have proposed it in the past however most likely such organization will devolve to the current status-quo with core;however, if the oversight committee is composed of individuals from companies using FreeBSD it may actually work for committee should have a vested interest in FreeBSD. Vince Vielhaber wrote: > On 03-Jun-99 Jaye Mathisen wrote: > > > > I second this. Even if it's a bit painful, somebody who has been working > > diligently at this needs to be able to be make their work usable quickly. > > I would guess that not too many things hinder progress, or quash desire > > more than fixes to problems languishing. > > > > There has to be some middle ground somewhere that lets Matt get his fixes > > in quickly, and still doesn't ruffle too many core feathers. > > > > I had the opportunity to hear some of the core side recently, and I > > certainly sympathize or empathize with the issue, but nobody else has > > stepped up to fix the NFS problems, and I would like to see this > > opportunity capitalized on. > > Not knowing the FULL story from both sides, I feel it'd be inappropriate > if I were to comment on it. However knowing Matt's coding abilities, > having seen the eruption here a few months ago, and the past splits that > IIUC were due to core problems, perhaps an oversight board (for lack of > a better description) consisting of zero core people and zero committers > may help to stop or solve some of these erruptions before they spill out > into the public's view. Who does a coder, committer, core member, etc, > have to turn to if (s)he feels (s)he's getting the shaft? Not anything > aimed at you (Jordan) or David, but let's face it - you two have enough > to do without having to worry about the petty crap that seeps out as well. > > Vince. > -- > ========================================================================== > Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com flame-mail: /dev/null > # include TEAM-OS2 > Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com > Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com > ========================================================================== > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message