From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 27 10:40:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FF9106564A for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:40:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144438FC17 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id oBRAeaju065368 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:40:37 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk oBRAeaju065368 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1293446437; bh=h85QGAQiHOqQ5O6piZv/P3lr8wNt0bvnIGkEN2JzNH4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4D186D11.1030708@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2027=20Dec=202010=2010:40:17=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.13)=20Gecko/20101207=20Thunderbird/3.1.7|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Portupgrad e=20status|References:=20<14212432ba707fc5f9fbc75b56e8e783@flabnap ple.net>=09<20101226214221.GB68570@stainmore>=09=20<86pqsogfvu.fsf@r ed.stonehenge.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<86pqsogfvu.fsf@red.stonehenge.c om>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.1.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-T ype:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol =3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------ enigF52D7DC0E3D4C146EDDF322F"; b=ksM0+QhWMwQoAqGx6xz18rwAZkksEZQSYzD31SFbGPqWZWu0Lj98KnlOuZDMxDPbE X1LE9UGmH3t/KOWqfLUqZyRvOavawN2fVn9RaxO5sqtdhQGewoWMJvcZUuiSey+2Q6 ZfQmw0OxjNpYoHGcvuFZHjtSRqmMpa+fp4pr9Wh4= Message-ID: <4D186D11.1030708@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:40:17 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <14212432ba707fc5f9fbc75b56e8e783@flabnapple.net> <20101226214221.GB68570@stainmore> <86pqsogfvu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86pqsogfvu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF52D7DC0E3D4C146EDDF322F" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Portupgrade status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:40:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF52D7DC0E3D4C146EDDF322F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 27/12/2010 01:32, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Rob" =3D=3D Rob Farmer writes: >=20 > Rob> Then, the removal of MD5 distinfo broke it and it stayed broken fo= r > Rob> over a week with no indication given that a fix was in the works. = On > Rob> the other hand, Doug Barton has been very responsive to issues wit= h > Rob> portmaster and fixed this problem less than 48 hours after it > Rob> appeared. Hence my recommendation to switch. >=20 > I switched to portmaster a few months ago after being firmly in the > portupgrade camp, and have not regretted it in the slightest. >=20 Same here. The biggest conceptual gotcha in switching is that portmaster always reinstalls the ports you tell it to work on, unlike portupgrade which just upgrades what's out of date unless you tell it otherwise. I also have my machines set up with a portmaster.rc like this: # # portmaster global config overrides # NO_BACKUP=3DBopt PM_DEL_BUILD_ONLY=3Dpw_dbo ALWAYS_SCRUB_DISTFILES=3Ddopt MAKE_PACKAGE=3Dgopt PM_PACKAGES=3Dfirst LOCAL_PACKAGEDIR=3D/usr/ports/packages PM_PACKAGES_LOCAL=3Dpmp_local PM_IGNORE_FAILED_BACKUP_PACKAGE=3Dpm_ignore_failed_backup_package # # That's All Folks! # Which has two good effects: it stops portmaster asking so many questions; and it keeps a local archive of packages of everything it builds and will re-install from that local package repo where an appropriate package is available. Oh, and it removes build dependencies rather than leaving them cluttering up the disk (but it does keep packages of them, so it's quick to reinstall where needed). This saves a lot of compiling if you share your local package repo amongst several machines, or (like I do) you have a lot of churn in installed package sets. I tried doing this sort of thing with portupgrade, but I never could get it to work quite right and I always had to remember to put extra flags on the command line -- with portmaster it "just works" (tm). Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF52D7DC0E3D4C146EDDF322F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0YbSQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxNQgCdEv96OFmi+zbdd17z83iv7QVQ vOkAn1MbtmB7aj3rf11VKLEBUfpCc/2e =QsWr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF52D7DC0E3D4C146EDDF322F--