From nobody Wed Apr 23 15:40:44 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ZjNc312pGz5tXsp for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2025 15:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from void@f-m.fm) Received: from fhigh-b3-smtp.messagingengine.com (fhigh-b3-smtp.messagingengine.com [202.12.124.154]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ZjNc16chQz3nvl for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2025 15:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from void@f-m.fm) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=f-m.fm header.s=fm2 header.b="H/rTM1gs"; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm2 header.b=LD2kKjuZ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=f-m.fm; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of void@f-m.fm designates 202.12.124.154 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=void@f-m.fm Received: from phl-compute-05.internal (phl-compute-05.phl.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailfhigh.stl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEED3254029D for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2025 11:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-mailfrontend-01 ([10.202.2.162]) by phl-compute-05.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 23 Apr 2025 11:40:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=f-m.fm; h=cc :content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm2; t=1745422846; x=1745509246; bh=usUHmg6SLM /Gicg0OfUccFLpfjrax61qj/mP4YG+oCA=; b=H/rTM1gsBm8IaeIc7fl+NfgJxi pzADXrobn3srxfhXg3ESRAMvF0s2cx5CcaXDj6vgsuGDYNSsJN/Ov8GlrpToBn03 5e36CO3JFMFfLYFYTXeQAj9vQMHc+WdsqFGohWsQDT0iw2lDQeyEql5O5Fwr0M5e 3x8iC8/51hqWustNLvCKI1c/8zyH92O1ak85YDV6GzntK/jNvXRulvV0CfZ8E1A1 mC/WU8AbByGA952y/CeGjQ5TuUBYACsw5bU6PLbF8ENHLnIV+Zi+HCGN1eGmYe7+ AME55tJLC3RIBGZ8wBxhDKkD4QR6XYRPZBZRoK3d+YK0JRa6hWgJej/R8Phw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t= 1745422846; x=1745509246; bh=usUHmg6SLM/Gicg0OfUccFLpfjrax61qj/m P4YG+oCA=; b=LD2kKjuZSrMK97O56tN6IlDhc0Zr4IRc60L1iUVG2UFMnfZ7Ta/ PtWSn8gbuR7qotQSHvWxc36xG5dpfF4JHSxeCAmh3il1XjZ4gmWjqSPMw/lYqnNo suB8bMlpgyUnokopGx79dCNnkQVuQd2C+n4DMKUN/oEkfK3UWHQqKoecTkEtvIjb uaKm4TK6jhNqX6yLTzFmQf2yq70Et91bbIeNP1FT4xK5nC0pn8U/V8u1pPHeYMmA 3Y4A3GDrnmOxElWzeHjb4RB0VfDQR9y+hD90nzbQSD/jMSUtOTKCyfV0zu2ouJMG c5jM80Gh+TUTG1RmQ5LTMVAiDZcILaKmqDg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefvddrtddtgddvgeeileekucetufdoteggodetrf dotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggv pdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhf fvuffkfhggtggujgesthdtredttddtvdenucfhrhhomhepvhhoihguuceovhhoihgusehf qdhmrdhfmheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepkeeluddvlefhieelfefggffhffektdehle elgfdugfdvgeekjeejuddtheehgfeunecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghr rghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepvhhoihgusehfqdhmrdhfmhdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepud dpmhhouggvpehsmhhtphhouhhtpdhrtghpthhtohepfhhrvggvsghsugdqtghurhhrvghn thesfhhrvggvsghsugdrohhrgh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i2541463c:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2025 11:40:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 16:40:44 +0100 From: void To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zfs (?) issues? Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <56F52DF4-2988-4F06-9F53-90D07AF5DD02@ketas.si.pri.ee> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <56F52DF4-2988-4F06-9F53-90D07AF5DD02@ketas.si.pri.ee> X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.66 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.993]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.66)[0.663]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[f-m.fm,none]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_EXCELLENT(-0.40)[202.12.124.154:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:202.12.124.128/27]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[f-m.fm:s=fm2,messagingengine.com:s=fm2]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[202.12.124.154:from]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[f-m.fm]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[f-m.fm]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:151847, ipnet:202.12.124.0/24, country:AU]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[f-m.fm:+,messagingengine.com:+]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[messagingengine.com:dkim]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4ZjNc16chQz3nvl X-Spamd-Bar: ++ On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 04:25:16AM +0300, Sulev-Madis Silber wrote: >i have long running issue in my 13.4 box (amd64) > >others don't get it at all and only suggest adding more than 4g ram > >it manifests as some mmap or other problems i don't really get > >basically unrestricted git consumes all the memory. I see symptoms like this on very slow media. That media might be inherently slow (like microSD) or it might mean the hd/ssd is worn out [1]. Programs like git and subversion read and write lots of small files, and the os/filesystem might not be able to write to slow media as fast as git would like. [1] observed failure mode of some hardware, where writes just get slower and slower. [2] the workaround where the machine *has* to use micro sd, in my example, to update ports, was to download latest ports.tar.xz and unzip it, rather than use git. [3] test hd performance with fio (/usr/ports/benchmarks/fio) --